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Electrical Wiring, Theories and Regulations
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Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification
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Wiring, theories, regulations, certification schemes
Wiring Theories Regulations Certification
- Sticky
A very in depth post. Yes we who are longer in the trade tend to complacency
I found the test meathods covered all the basic tests, except...
Thank you
I'm only mucking about meself , Lastman .
Was there a question?
And a reason for resurrecting an 11 year old thread?
- adasadas
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Welcome @Geraldine you may be better off starting a new thread with more detail as Edd is no longer a forum member.
I must admit that this has really surprised me.I don't have a copy of British regs so I rely on forum members comments to learn about them.But up...
This is a zombie thread. All that matters is that the overcurrent protection for your 1.5mm2 SWA is appropriate for its current carrying capacity...
Oops, sorry! Scrolled back up to where someone mentioned the fuse, but never saw your reply below it.
The problem is with the flex exiting the bottom of the plug. With a flush socket, the flex will exit just above the skirting, which would be fine...
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Welcome to the forum. Feel free to introduce yourself in the welcome section.
Because there is no connection from the circuit to earth, you...
- John Lundrigan
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He knows. He's just teasing us from above.....😇
I think they are LiVE units.
I personally think today it merits C3. Electricians should and must always outway any decision by improvement & safety. Strive for perfection...
Hi
I know this is old thread does anyone have course notes i can borrow to start studying. Thanks.
Amen to that. My preferred method since 1998.With the 63 amp main switch in place of the 100 amp (don't have them yet)
- Paul Hamill
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I=KVA/(√3×KV)
I=(KW/PF)/(√3×KV)
I=(50/0.9)/(√3×0.4)= 80.19 A
- dldavies
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We'll all be answering the same questions in 5 years time when all the rental ones that only got C3 this time round are a C2 - it might be AFDDs...
Thanks thia has helped me also
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I wasn't thinking that anyone was taking the mickey, it was just an observation. For example, anyone doing a search for 'Chinese' or 'China' is...
Once again thank you Brian.
I must admit to being somewhat confused. The black switch that you told me to exercise was ON when the test button on...
- appspark
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Ok I got all that but if you are in the bathroom there is probably water/ humidity, would that complete the circuit ?!!!
- bluesky
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Stroma Certification Scheme has anyone heard of STROMA
bear in mind that it could be a month before the building controll documentation is processed.
- MG201
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...and he's got a Ze reading, anyway, unless it's worn away after 10 years. :confused:
- TPES
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This thread is nearly seven years old so best start a new thread here.
https://www.electriciansforums.net/forums/electrical-forum.15/
I also think the EICR has gone a bit silly, code 4 was removed (not complying with current regulations) and I think that was wrong, but as it...
original post is 10 years old. he's probably got better english by now.
EAWR 15, admittedly it would only apply for the contractors and not the homeowner but still.
"Sorry Mrs Miggins but my hobbit apprentice is at...
I've had enough situations where problems occur to not want be going there again and normaly isolate the screen at the motor at installation as...
I know that to add this is very late but just in case someone is trying to find out what to do then........LOOKING AT ELECTRICAL REGULATIONS IS...
Wow, that's a very old regulation! It was indeed a requirement once upon a time, possibly not since the 13th edition, that installed flexible...
And an even better instant.
An I.T. company selling recovery solutions sent a dummy bullet to potential customers stating " if you dont have...
Welcome to the forum! Worth bearing in mind this thread is around 7 years old though.
- Josh95
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Richard (love your diagrams). My 'electrician' friend (a DIY-er), said he could help me with a problem but I would like your initial thoughts on...
And leave a potentially damaged cable in service?
- woodywoodpecker
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It is Aug 2023 and an electrician has failed my EICR with code C2 for non-fire rated kitchen downlights that are located under my own bathroom one...
- Questforknowledge
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Going "Commando" is something completely different !
Is there a law on meter tails or is there just a recommend length ?
The reference test temperature is 10 census
When cable is live, worst scenario to see cable temperature increase to 70 census.
The resistance...
I think they work with Meggers if you reverse the leads
From English government
It also gives average price at £155 for an EICR. But I have hunted for some thing saying you must have x qualification...
My thought as well. Usually when you have several new spots being fitted it's likely possible that not just the switch wire but also the neutrals...
- DanSwift1988
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If you move house do you take them with you ?
- wicherkowo87
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Not compared the prices, but Flexishiled is pretty good and seems to last. They also do a rodent-resistant versions where the sheath stats of cat...
Regarding EICR C2
Are we suggesting that one should really remove the cpc and test the circuit individually. Otherwise I am still in the dark as to why the parallel...
imagine if you could get to an efficient power source that produces energy and sustains longevity, its not going to happen though anytime soon in...
- Joe9876543210
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I'm not sure 100% but it does state
"Many thanks to John Peckham for authoring this"
A Wayleave but maybe best to start a thread
I am really glad I don't need to investigate testing procedures for SELV,Electrical separation for months on end.
Amongst all the posts,not one...
I’m glad you brought the regulation up because people are convinced in changing the fixing screws to nylon or putting caps over the heads, which...
- Zahid Nawab
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I have looked for a government site with a copy the the "check list" can't find one. I can find organisations who have published one, but not an...
Draw him a diagram showing how the PME earth will have a mini electrode somewhere.
It’s nuts to get rid of a TN system for this reason. As you say...
I'm hoping he may have finished the school job by now :)
I know he was greatly respected but I don't think we should bring resurrection into it........RIP Eng.? !!!
- Mike Johnson
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- Sticky
Agree, Its a professional, experienced, technically concluded judgement call. ie Heads C2 Tails C3 ?
Again very interesting photo, s. One thing that strikes me as odd is the conversion of the supply system does not appear to be followed up in an...
I would hope so, as it was 11 years ago.
Can you take a picture of where it's burning out.
He might let you look at it for a tenner
40 years?
That’s only 30 years older than this thread… 😄
- Locked
Times up Johnny, thread closed.
Note that the OP is in Germany. It is not clear whether this is a domestic installation, but many homes have a 3-phase supply which will not have...
- imnvsh
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The DNO fuse is for overload protection of their network, it is not required to meet the BS7671 regulations on ADS for an installation.
I have gn3 updated to the 18th edition.
I have gn8 which is the 17th edition amendment 3 version.
The 0.05 is mentioned in gn3 not gn8 unless...
- Questforknowledge
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See above ^^^^ ?
That's what I put. Thanks ?
NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC Complaint? Waste of time.
Do you guys have the same assessor every year?
I had my assessment end of last year and when i had my email booking the date, it had someone who...
That’s actually a good shout conduit rarely used these days & the relevant problems not using this, is causing many a problem now.
Who would ever...
Perhaps not for the client, but useful to refer to when coming on site as an electrician rectifying, or doing the next EICR. It is handy to know...
Became mandatory 28 September
yep. 60 years of Benson & hedges finest. what difference is a couple of lungfulls of chip fat smoke,
Yeah I just call it all CPC usually working get that cable to there. etc/ I not do many of this full on talk stuff. Defo a what you said DPG as I...
Oh dear, I have the MFT and kitchen worktop, but no codebreaker book, "I am not worthy". apologies to Bill and Ted.
What would be the recommended improvement for safety?
- Boat_Boy
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Thanks for the docs, will add to the reading list.
From what I was aware "smart" battery chargers still only operate around 14/15V max? Not...
- halfbaked
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Open your eyes and take a good hard look at the electrical industry and you will find it isn't working already, yes we had the NICEIC's defined...
?? yeah i think i pressed enginerr by mistake haha
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I think i need to reset my profile details ?
- RickyB1990
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Troll??? more like, a gremlin.
How did the robbery go, out of prison yet?
Old thread, but you’re right.
However the EICR form states that no voids such as attics or under floors have been inspected. Any other...
The problem is a one size fits all approach doesn't always work and the it must be right cos it says so in codebreakers does not absolve the...
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Forthcoming....
Ready or made available when wanted or needed.
Which for information is never up my way.
I use the comments box or a continuation page for it
NAPIT Certification Scheme Joining NAPIT - requirements and questions
All good then, well done mate. ?
Just need to remember to leave the CPC a lot longer than the L and N, but a nice solution.
Unfortunately nowhere yet - been so busy.
Been working on CCTV around the exterior and other bits and bobs that needed more attention.
Also the...
Tony, it's a few years later, just reading this but thank you for such a nice explanation
- LukeScotty
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You wouldn’t do it now, but you might need to know when the shower was installed, to see if it was a requirement then. There might be a...
- Raptor0014
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OP seems to have disappeared.
- billy192
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Will do . Just to give you an idea before I do .
First switch , red in com , black and grey 1 & 2
Intermediate upstairs , Greys and blacks ...
- Delboy247
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you cannot pay for a pass. So charging £120 for a EICR with a pass is not possible.
you’ve already paid for the EICR. It Came back...
I have no experience of a DNO refusing to reconnect an existing installation after carrying out any work to their equipment.
However in my...
A lot of names on this thread I don’t recognise…. But then a lot can change in 11 years. 😜
One item I tested recently, in a flat that was due to be rented out, was a wall-mounted heater which was hard-wired rather than just plugged in to...
Stroma Certification Scheme Fraudulent Certificate
Possibly another stick, if it would be useful. (All the below predicated on you being in England or Wales, and the seller having owned the...
Yea C3 would be my classification code
Ignore qualifications for a minute - do you believe that you have the necessary competence?
- Sticky
Stroma Certification Scheme Is STROMA now owned by NAPIT, and Certsure own ELECSA, NICEIC and...
The other problem you have is that NICEIC with their electrical safety Standards marketing strategy done a sterling job of being the number 1 name...
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