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What's this got to do with DIYers?
Bad electricians one step up from DIYers only just
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What's this got to do with DIYers?
Send out the Bat symbol....seems to be about as much use as governing bodies are
I'm not sure if this is the right section??
I have just finished fixing a job that another electrician first started back late last year. Basically in a shortened version: A customer asked a British Gas Sub-contracted electrician to price for a Consumer Upgrade, which he did (and I have a copy of the estimate). He then came with his 'step daughter in-law' to do the works which also involved adding 4no Double Sockets, 1no Single Socket and a S.F Connection unit for Kitchen Lights. It then came to the end of the day when he turned round and said there is a fault on the ring main, I've wired it up so it won't trip and I'll come back to sort it out. He then got paid and has since, never been back! He ignores calls from the customer and so forth. I then got asked to go and have a look as they have had enough and want it sorted. I went as I was recommended to them by a previous customer. I found and rectified the fault as best as I can. It is not ideal but is now safe and protected by the RCD! I have urged them to have a full rewire at the soonest possible time. I also upgraded the bonding to the main gas and water pipes as they weren't up to scratch. I have logged my part with the BRCS and have provided a certificate where I have stated what I have done and what needs doing.
This really annoys me as I seem to be coming across this more and more of late and would like to know where to go if we wanted to log a complaint? I've tried the NIC and Chack a trade but they aren't on either.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Joe
Is the electrician a member of one of the CPS schemesGood afternoon..
I’m having an issue with an Electrician who did some work in my kitchen conversion.
I had a total now kitchen refurb which required 5 new double sockets and 11 new Down lights.
The electrician told us we would need a whole new fuse board as the current one was only single RCD.
He said he could do the required work but would not be able to issue a certificate until I have a new board fitted at a cost of £550.
I was told by another electrician that was nonesense and he needs to issue a cert for the work undertaken so I can get a completion cert from building control.
He still maintained that he was not going to issue an installation cert.
I contacted NICEIC for advice and they confirmed what I was told that he has to issue an installation certificate with the advice that a double RCD board is fitted at a later date.
They said if he deemed it unsafe then he should not have started the work.
I’ve sent him the response from NICIEC but he is ignoring my calls and messages now.
What can I do to get him to issue me the installation cert for the work he undertook?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the response.Is the electrician a member of one of the CPS schemes
Posting a picture of your consumer unit may answer a few questions.
I'm wondering - Single RCD - meaning ALL circuits are protected by one RCD,
OR or a fairly typical split load board that has some RCD protected circuits and some non-RCD-protected circuits, typically lighting circuits?
Speculating - he might have a point if the latter, as new work has to done to current regs which requires RCD protection for lighting.
If the former he might also be concerned about a recent regulation requiring division of the installation so a fault doesn't trip the whole house (paraphrasing)
However this should have all be agreed before work starts and it's not totally clear at what point this requirement for a new CU was communicated.
I'd ask him to put in writing why the addition or alteration doesn't comply with the regulations (which is a direct reference to regulation 641.5 )
Do you know whether the kitchen refurb required new circuits, or were existing circuits extended? If new circuits were involved he should in theory be registered with a competent persons scheme.
There's a number of points here.View attachment 88170
The additional sockets are form a current circuit.
Just for the record, I never chose this electrician, he was supplied as part of the overall work by a building contractor.
Thank you for your advice and would appreciate anything else that may help me close this issue.
Would help if we could read the labels on the MCBs , but from what I can see, I'm fairly sure that there are ways around the problem without replacing
That’s helpful.. thank you.So it's the lights that are the problem.
Simple solution is to replace both of those 6A MCBs with 6A RCBOs (a combined RCD and MCB) which timhoward thinks are available. This will bring your CU up to modern standards from an electrical point of view.
Plastic CU. I can see entirely both sides of this argument and it’s unlikely we’ll get to hear the electricians decision making process. I’m minded to think this isn’t a cowboy simply as if it were then they’d have taken the money and walked away with zero craps given.
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