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Raptor0014 · May 7, 2022

marconi said:
Some cunning plan though for the use of the triple gang 13A socket outlet?

Probably if the 3 radials fail they’ll plug the three into the triple gang.

Mike Johnson · May 7, 2022

Just been told on Facebook by a self professed "Electrician" that not having an Earth in a rural house in France is not "dangerous" also because an RCD is not directly connected to earth it does not need one to work.

Raptor0014 · May 7, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
Just been told on Facebook by a self professed "Electrician" that not having an Earth in a rural house in France is not "dangerous" also because an RCD is not directly connected to earth it does not need one to work.

It’s amazing how many ‘electricians’ are on Faceache.

I often have to bow down to their ‘superior’ knowledge. A bit like the one who recently told me that a Type A RCBO could be blinded by DC leakage and only a Type B wasn’t. I tried to explain that Type A will operate with <6mA DC current and Type B was only required if the DC current was >6mA. Faceache expert told me I was wrong and Type A couldn’t see DC.

So I’ve sent a note to the IET and all manufacturers to amend all the regs/product specs.

James · May 7, 2022

Am I missing something here? An rcd does not require an earth to function.

you do of course need an alternate path for the current if you want it to trip but that is normally provided by the fault.

Mike Johnson · May 7, 2022

James said:
Am I missing something here? An rcd does not require an earth to function.

you do of course need an alternate path for the current if you want it to trip but that is normally provided by the fault.

But only if the property has an Earth, in rural France the Earth is the responsibility of the building owner the DNO/EDF do not supply or fit one.

DPG · May 7, 2022

Mike Johnson said:
But only if the property has an Earth, in rural France the Earth is the responsibility of the building owner the DNO/EDF do not supply or fit one.

There is always a path to earth though. Regardless if the supplier makes one available

Mike Johnson · May 7, 2022

True, but makes a bit of a nonsense of the fuss most electricians make about Earthing and Bonding.

nicebutdim · May 7, 2022

DPG said:
There is always a path to earth though. Regardless if the supplier makes one available

I've been that path on a couple of occasions in the past. That's part of the reason why I'm here and started a new career.

pc1966 · May 8, 2022

DPG said:
There is always a path to earth though. Regardless if the supplier makes one available

True!

But you kind of don't want it to be via yourself or loved ones though!

Raptor0014 · May 9, 2022

Todays episode of ‘Beirut electrics’!

No 3C & E, no problem. Just use the earth.

Then chop the neutrals at the switch and the junction box.

Honestly. They must have spent more time fcuking it up than wiring it right in the first place.

JBW175 · May 9, 2022

Baddegg said:
That’s outrageous!…..only using 2 terminals on a 5 way wago ffs!

Is ok, I re homed those precious wago’s today mate.

Baddegg · May 9, 2022

JBW175 said:
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Is ok, I re homed those precious wago’s today mate.

Good man

I’m often guilty of that myself…

pirate · May 10, 2022

The ivy acts as a drip loop, and the floodlight helps shield that rj45 connector from the rain...still all working 2 years on from the last time I took a pic of this

littlespark · May 10, 2022

Its alright... its an outside socket, innit?

mainline · May 10, 2022

pirate said:
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The ivy acts as a drip loop, and the floodlight helps shield that rj45 connector from the rain...still all working 2 years on from the last time I took a pic of this
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It's doomed to fail long before a decent installed one would though.
I'm just wondering apart from the obvious electrical things being fed, would it be at the glands due to either stress from moving about in the rain or maybe the seals due to the open lid and water ingress.
Any thoughts

pirate · May 10, 2022

It's quite high up on the wall, so nobody passing by is going to touch it. However, this qualifies as a decent installation here! Compared with some, it's a very classy bit of work...and nobody dies, well, not often! (Iknow, you only die once, but you get my drift!)
However, water ingress to the sockets will be the most likely scenario. Oddly enough, also a scenario inside this bar where there are 2 sockets immediately above the sink...
I just love how casual they are, it's amusing...but a bit worrying too. The bar owner is a friend, so I was able to chide him about it. I asked what happens in a massive downpour? Easy, he said, I just unplug it til the rain has stopped!
Yup, that whole lot is run off a single plug and socket inside the bar...simples!

mainline · May 10, 2022

pirate said:
It's quite high up on the wall, so nobody passing by is going to touch it. However, this qualifies as a decent installation here! Compared with some, it's a very classy bit of work...and nobody dies, well, not often! (Iknow, you only die once, but you get my drift!)
However, water ingress to the sockets will be the most likely scenario. Oddly enough, also a scenario inside this bar where there are 2 sockets immediately above the sink...
I just love how casual they are, it's amusing...but a bit worrying too. The bar owner is a friend, so I was able to chide him about it. I asked what happens in a massive downpour? Easy, he said, I just unplug it til the rain has stopped!
Yup, that whole lot is run off a single plug and socket inside the bar...simples!

I suppose as long as they are rcd covered then its all dandy.
Probably would have been cheaper to gland it into a decent box though as those sockets etc i wouldn't have thought are cheap.

pirate · May 10, 2022

Decent sockets etc are expensive here, but there are some very cheap bits of kit too, including all sorts of replacement parts for almost everything. Labour is cheap though...

loz2754 · May 10, 2022

pirate said:
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The ivy acts as a drip loop, and the floodlight helps shield that rj45 connector from the rain...still all working 2 years on from the last time I took a pic of this
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I see 2 identical pictures.
Is this a game of spot the difference?

mainline · May 10, 2022

loz2754 said:
I see 2 identical pictures.
Is this a game of spot the difference?

Yes 30 minutes between pics to prove that it's not deteriorated in that time.
Jobs, a good un.

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