class 1

  1. B

    Is this a class 1 or class 2?

    I am a new PAT tester for a school, and I am stuck testing a plasma globe. It has a two core wire going to it, but no class 2 mark on the appliance. As I understand it, if it has no mark I must treat it as a class 1, and it instantly fails as there is no earth bond. However, it has been passed...
  2. J

    Class 1 or 2 ‐-----------

    https://ibb.co/0M0SjNs Would you consider these downlights class 1 or 2?
  3. M

    Class 1, no metal, how to test?

    I want to PAT a coffee machine. It has a sealed plug; no class 2 mark; a round cable that suggests twin and earth; and no visible metal. Please how should I proceed? thank you.
  4. M

    Fridge Fails Class 1 Test

    Just started PAT testing and trying to understand why stuff fails. Recently had a large fridge fail. The cable was scuffed with a slice of the flex missing so the yellow wire was visible but not the copper. The readings on the tester were 0.6 plus in various places. Could it just mean the cpc is...
  5. S

    Microwaves and kettles all failed Class 1 test

    HI guys, new to PAT testing and here. I recently completed an online course in order to carry out PAT tests annually in 10 rented houses. Unfortunately all the microwaves and kettles in each property failed Class 1 testing. I am using a Martindale HPAT 400 tester and am obviously doing something...
  6. V

    UK Class 1 downlight no earth lazy instal

    Hi all Up in a loft after an EICR carrying out rectifications including this beauty.
  7. P

    2 RCD's - are they needed

    Hi I’m looking for advice on the following: I’ve yet to contact my local council about installing a light in Zone 1 of my bathroom (this due to height restrictions) but reading up on it in order to get ready for the off I thought it wise to check out my understanding / intentions first. The...
  8. grumpyjohn01

    Class 1 fittings

    I am working with a lighting designer at the moment producing custom light fittings for a restaurant chain. Most of his designs are raw metal (steel, copper,brass) welded or riveted together with brass lampholders and 'vintage ' 3c flexes. All the lampholders are earthed via their dedicated...
  9. N

    How can this be a Class 1 fitting

    Vas Birdcage Antique Brass Effect 5 Lamp Pendant Ceiling Light | Departments | DIY at B&Q Class one light fitting , well the top bit is earthed , but the main light can't be surly as its wired in 2 core flex ,class 1 not earthed nice eh
  10. 1Justin

    PAT: Metal framed lightshade on class 1 ?

    Conventional metal framed lightshade on a class 1 luminaire. (Luminaire itself is all safe). Lightshade insulated from brass bayonet lampholder by plastic diameter/size-reduction ring. I thus define the shade as double insulated part, - and it's OK for it to float unearthed?
  11. P

    class 1 light fitting with no cpc

    Been asked to swap over a class 1 fitting for another old existing class 1 on a first floor hallway - however there is no cpc on the light circuit! (early 1960s house). In the loft there is a rfc junction box close at hand. What about putting a 4mm g/y single from the light fitting to the J.B...
  12. U

    Class 2 for class 1 with no earth

    Quick one....again client wants class 1 light fitting in kitchen. At preset no earthing on lighting circuits. All existing fittings are class 2. Is there any way a class 1 can be fitted with no earth? Say if its noted down on certificate and client made aware of this. All circuits protected by...
  13. L

    Customer wont earth class 1 light fittings (Hotel)

    Did an EICR on a 8 bedroom hotel a few weeks ago, issued the report yesterday, every bedroom has class 1 fittings, I assume they cost a few quid, they were put up by the odd job man, Lighting circuit has no cpc as its wired in twin red/black, I said its not a problem if we change them to...
  14. scarlet7

    Class 1 Earth Continuity for PAT test.

    Hi guys, When performing an earth continuity test on class 1 appliances can you get away with just using a 200mA current on every piece of equipment? Having been on the 2377 course they say to use 1.5 times the fuse rating upto 26A for non IT. Need clarification as to what is right...
  15. B

    Class 1 - Insulation Resistance lower legal limit?

    Hi Guys, Could you guys tell me what the lower legal limit is on Insulation resistance for Class 1 appliances? We raised our own test limit some years ago to >5m ohm due to certain units failing when installed on site and us getting increasing warranty call outs to fix them. We narrowed it...
  16. A

    class 1 lighting

    I have an NICEIC inspection in a few weeks for which I am replacing a cu. The lighting circuits have no cpc and on doing the risk assessment I have found five class 1 lamps with metal shades. The rest of the lamps are class 2. Is it obligatory to replace these units for the inspection or is it...
  17. B

    class 1 equipment?

    how do you pat test class 1 equipment if there is no exposed metal work?
  18. H

    class 1 equipment with no exposed earthed metal

    How do you do an earth bond test for these? I have re read the IEE code of practice on this but I can't find an answer apart form: "...can give misleading results" For example a class 1, totally plastic vacuum cleaner, at least on the outside (it has tiny metal screws not screwed into earthed...
  19. L

    Class 1, 2 & 3 Items

    Just thinking of getting into PAT testing and was wondering if anybody has or can give me advice on what are Class 1, 2 & 3 items? I know what it says in the book but was just interested in what the appliances are, for example what class is a: Kettle PC Monitor Lamp Fridge AC adapter...
  20. M

    PATesting - Class 1 Appliances w/ no access to metalwork

    Hi guys, Before I ask my question, i'd like to refer you to this information I found: My questions: I work for a residential home and will now be doing our PAT testing in-house following our yearly review. Should I be omitting the earth-bond test? Im using a PB500 unit. For the Class...

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