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    Cables too short in backbox

    Morning all. I am replacing a 1g socket, with a 2g socket. Because I cant (cant be bothered :tearsofjoy:) make the hole in the wall bigger, I am going to make it surface mounted. The cables are too short, and they do no stretch the extra distance to cover the backbox. Ive been told about these...
  2. F

    Spur from socket to a FCU

    Hi. First post! I have a socket on a ring which currently is occupied by a plug which operates my boiler. I would like to use this socket for something else. My idea is to spur off this (I've checked this isn't already a spur) to a 13amp FCU which my boiler would be wired into (no need for...
  3. C

    Additional fused spur

    As a rank amateur at electrics I had hoped to have an electrician complete the mains connection to my low voltage garden lighting. Owing to the lockdown this isn’t possible so I’m going to have a go. Question - I already have a fused spur, fed from a double socket, to feed an outdoor garden...
  4. B

    Can I use this Time Delay Switch on a panel heater?

    Just a quick one! I believe this time delay switch should work for my old panel heater (1.25kwh) because it handles loads up to 16A. Can anyone confirm this for me? I had someone tell me I needed a fused spur switch but others tell me I don't. FYI: the aim is to ensure the panel heater turns...
  5. D

    Why can't you take a spur from a spur?

    Don't worry, I'm not going to do it, but I got into a YouTube hole earlier and have become intrigued by electrical circuits! But this is confusing me. I get that, on a ring circuit, you can run a cable from a socket to create a new socket. But you can't then run a cable from that new socket...
  6. S

    Spur from a spur cable??

    Hi All, I'm adding a new double socket in my living room, which I had intended to tie into an existing cable (that goes to an existing double plug - see pic) using a 30a junction box and create a spur. I've added the socket, run all the 2.5mm t+e behind metal shielding in a channel at the...
  7. S

    UK Spur in kitchen question

    Hi, I have a question about a kitchen spur. Currently fitting a kitchen for my brother, he is having a built in microwave in a wall unit and I took a spur from a double socket off the ring and ran it to a single socket in the wall behind the cupboard above the microwave. Now he tells me he also...
  8. U

    Replacing spur one gang socket for two gang

    Hi all, I have a single surface mounted socket in a cupboard which our freezer is plugged into. We don't have any sockets in our hall which the cupboard is off so I thought it might be useful to change the one gang socket for a two gang, again surface mounted to keep it simple. Its on our...
  9. B

    Cable size for spur socket

    Hi all, I have a spur socket on the upstairs landing from a ring socket in an adjacent bedroom. It is connected in 2.5mm T&E ; is this okay or should it be 4mm due to it being a double outlet hence it could supply 26A? It currently has only a decorative LED tree thing plugged in. The cable...
  10. Lwols

    a Fused Digital Timer Spur switch

    Hi all, (Just reposting, there was some confusion, I was mistaken for a domestic electrician, I'd like to think I have basic understanding, but I'll stick to carpentry!) There were some great replied on the original thread, but I thought id post again, with the info I posted, you never know...
  11. Lwols

    Fused Digital Timer Spur Switch

    Hi all, Would somebody draw a diagram of how they believe a Fused Digital Timer Spur switch should be installed. A bit of information; There are 6 floor standing outdoor LEDs. 1.5mm SWA feeding each and routed back to the consumer unit. Shall be protected by a 6amp Wylex RCBO. Thanks in...
  12. Sparked Out

    Domestic Spur off a spur.... make safe with 16A MCB from ring?

    Just recently has some work done on a conservatory, and in the process discovered that the 2 double sockets are not part of a ring main... looks like one is a spur off the back of a ring socket in the main house, and the second is a spur off of that :eek: So, question is, if I replace the ring...
  13. G

    Outside light off an already used spur in 2.5t&e

    Hi guys Wanting to put an 8 watt led light fitting outside , Only place I can get a supply from is kitchen ring main got a radial approx 4th long. now issue is the radial is already feeding combination boiler and a single socket for washing machine. If I put additional spur in for outside...
  14. D

    Domestic Seeking advice re oven change - double socket to fused spur

    Hi, I'm looking to replace my electric single fan oven. It is plugged into a double socket, the other socket having the gas hob plugged into it, and this double socket is wired to a 13a switched fused spur. Looking at the ovens in my price range I can see some that include a plug and can be...
  15. W

    Domestic Fused Spur For LED TV

    Hi, Hoping to get a 2nd opinion please. We are fitting out a new room and will be wall mounting the TV. We want all connections to be hidden behind the TV. The problem is that a standard mains socket and plug is too deep behind the TV so TV sticks out too far. Currently, in another room...
  16. J

    Need some advice ! can I spur off a kitchen single socket that is coming off a fuse spur ?

    A friend has added a socket off the back of a single socket that is coming off a fuse spur in the kitchen will this be ok ? Thanks for the help
  17. B

    Adding Light to Power circuit.

    Adding a light to a Radial Power Circuit - the circuit is wired in 2.5mm and on a 20A MCB Now if I add a FCU to my Radial and then wire my light in 1.5mm this should be safe? But what if I don't use a FCU but wire the light with 2.5mm cable? what dangers are there.
  18. J

    Spur off a spur to 2W LED

    Hi, we’ve fitted a breakfast bar in the kitchen. There was a disused socket above it which we are going to extend to a single socket, then spur off that to a 3A FCU. Would this be classed as spurring off an existing spur? The old 2 gang socket will be replaced by a junction block or 20amp...
  19. Thomas Connolly

    Lighting Circuit Spur Q&A

    Hi Gents, Just a quick question. I'm adding some lights to an extension, just a few spots which I plan to take from the existing downstairs lighting circuit using a junction box. Question being, do I need to add an FCU? I'm comparing this this adding a spur to a ring final circuit and if...
  20. T

    Spur off a power breaker

    Hi all. I currently have a double socket with 3x wires in the back. One set is going to a single power breaker ( which then goes through the wall). Not sure what it does or protects as it came with the house. I wanted to spur off to a single socket behind the tv. Would I be better changing...
  21. K

    OK to spur lights from ring main?

    Hi, I want to add wall lights to a room, but don't have access to the floor above, so can't easily access the lighting circuit. There is a power socket on the wall where I want the wall lights. Is it permissible to take a fused spur from the ring main for the wall lights? Regards, Glenn
  22. D

    Trainee Single Pole Fused Spur From Ring Main

    I have two cables for wall lamps (1mm T+E) going to one of the socket in the back of the TV. These lamps will be controlled with smart bulbs with a little remote control or/and an app on the phone, no need of wall switch. I'm considering to use the 47mm double metal box to host a modular single...
  23. S

    Domestic Am I qualified for fused spur

    Hi all, I’ve got a friend who’s a fully qualified electrician, and today we got into a discussion, I install intruder alarms, I have completed my level 2 electrical science and installation, and 6 months ago completed the more relevant course of “mains compliance” qualification, mainly so I...
  24. C

    How to certify a lighting spur off a socket?

    I've just finished a small job replacing a bathroom light and adding an extractor fan. Since it is a very old installation there was no earth to the lighting circuit. Part of the job was to remove a fan heater that had been supplied by a socket radial. To overcome the lack of earth situation...
  25. C

    Domestic Bringing ring to regs standard, and other things

    Hi all, new to forum but excited to get in the thick of it. I've done some domestic electrical work in the past as my dad was a HV sparky when he was younger, and I have done a fair bit of LV microelectronics in my line of work. I have just bought my first house and done some things already...
  26. D

    2 questions - Existing ring main mapping, and rules on spurs

    Hi Just getting started with a view to DIY electrics on my house extension in a few months time, and ideally would like to map out the current circuits so I can plan the best way to join up, or where new circuits may be required etc. 2 Questions I reckon I can do some DIY non-live testing of...
  27. B

    Fused connection unit

    2 Questions, 1. 2.5mm T+E on radial, 20A breaker feeding 1 FCU that feeds water heater, can I come off this FCU with another FCU to feed a heater? 2. 2.5mm ring main, consisting off FCU and sockets all on ring, can I come off one of these FCU to feed a FCU spur?
  28. O

    Lighting circuit - spur small load from that

    Attached are 2 photos. One is the wiring behind light switch. Other is wiring from that circuit (located above the cabinet). As we can see: it's 3-core+earth. Currently, the lights in the room work fine on/off with the light switch. If I connect a simple lamp holder to the wire above the...
  29. Brian Murdoch

    neutral in Live Load on Fused Spur

    has anyone any experience of this. The boiler is 14 years old and has only just gone wrong. when the boiler engineer looked at it he found there was 240v between the neutral and earth inside the boiler unit.
  30. Tallman

    Domestic Spur circuit cutting out then restoring - no RCD trip

    This is a new one to me.. a small spur circuit (3 double sockets) on ground floor, several small load items connected - table lamp, assorted AV kit (TV, Amp, DVD). On just these 3 sockets only, the power cuts, sometimes flicking on - off - on again. Other times it'll stay off for 1-3 minutes...
  31. E

    Loft Sockets added to spur( FCU)

    Hi there looking to fit 4 double sockets in a loft , there are no existing sockets wired from the loft so it will require a cable to be rsn into the loft , im wondering if i spur off a socket can i then connect the 4 new sockets in a radial from the spur assuming the original socket circuit is a...
  32. O

    Fixed installation back to a plug or fused spur

    I have been asked to fit a set of electric gates and some garden lighting to a property. I'm working behind the guy doing the indoor electrics. He is talking about me wiring the gates back to a plug and the garden lighting to a fused spur. Question is do I issue a minor works certificate for...
  33. I

    Require additional cooker spur in kitchen

    Hello, My electrician is currently wiring a new kitchen and has wired in a cooker switch to a cooker fused spur shown in the attached photo for the electric cooker oven. He has used 6mm flex wiring for the circuit. The cooker hob is gas. He has installed a B32 for the circuit back at the...
  34. E

    Is a non-fused switched socket spur allowed in Kitchen?

    Can someone please confirm if a single spur off a ring main is allowed in a kitchen? My plumber has said you cannot have spurs in the kitchen, must all be ring main? Use: To create an extra socket under the kitchen cabinets, 6" off ground, will be used for single ELV DC Alexa PSU as limited...
  35. Daniel Shepherd

    Domestic Two fused spurs from one current socket?

    Hi, I'm doing some work on a room I want to convert into an office space. It currently has three sockets in it. One has two neutral and two live wires connected to the socket, the other two have 3 live an neutral wires (this wiring is done circa mid 60's we think. I plan to add about 2000kw...
  36. S

    Towel Rail Spur to socket

    Hi, New to this, just looking for some advice. I have a Spur switch located outside of my bathroom connected to a towel rail inside my bathroom. I am looking to replace the Spur switch with a socket and have the towel rail an actual plug. This way I can place a smart plug between them to enable...
  37. G

    Spur off a spur in the loft.

    I have recently moved into a new build which has a passive input ventilation unit in the loft. This is cabled to an unswitched fcu which is spurred off a single socket which is in turn spurred off the ring. Am I right in thinking that you shouldn't have a spur off a spur?
  38. Sparksaflyin

    clever ways of ring final test without removing spur fronts??

    Morning fellas. I know from regular visits to this website that we have some rather intuitive Sparkie’s on here so I thought I’d join in the fun. I’ve got a rather basic question to start with but also where some of you can hopefully show your tips and tricks. Im currently working on a...
  39. littlespark

    To spur or not to spur?.....

    Quick description. I've got a socket on the RFC with a double socket already spurred off it. This socket has been replaced with a blank plate with the joint in the box. Customer would like another socket installed nearby but in opposite direction. Brick wall Solution 1. Change blank plate to...
  40. H

    Basic FCU wiring question

    Please excuse the basic question, I am rewiring an FCU for a washing machine, adding a socket to the FCU output to plug the washing machine into rather than wiring the washing machine directly into the FCU without a plug. Just want to check that it is ok to wire both circuit wires back into the...
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