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Tilly

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Hi guys, thanks for the add.

Alarm is quite a few years old, no problems until recently.

The PIR in my shed started playing up, couldn't find the problem so it was was omitted. After a couple of bikes and a boys 360 was stored I became worried, so started to check the wiring out.

The pir wire was routed across a door threshold. I lifted the carpet to find the wire quite chewed up.The alarm was put into engineers mode. Because of the rather long route with twists bends the chewed up part was cut out, and replaced using small block connectors. A nice deep groove dug out to place the new wire in.

After the PIR was re added and alarm reset Oops ! No conformation beeps. Also the alarm will not set. Anti tamper also seems dead.

Fuses and connections all appear fine.

Help please .... My alarm is now out of action
 

Spoon

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Welcome to the forum @Tilly
Do you have a meter you could check the damaged cable with?
 

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Something like this would do.
Just something to check the continuity of each core of the cable.
 
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Tilly

Tilly

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Welcome to the forum @Tilly
Do you have a meter you could check the damaged cable with?
Thanks for your reply. Yes just a basic thing but it bleeps to let me know there’s a current flowing though.
Welcome to the forum @Tilly
Do you have a meter you could check the damaged cable with?
Hi spoon,
Only have a basic tester, beeps to show current flowing through wire.
 

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Ok @Tilly , we only need it to beep. We are just checking to see if any of the cables have shorted or broke.
Is it possible to disconnect the cable at both ends?
 

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Yes it is..,. All four wires or just the red ?
Ok, so you have a 4 core going to the PIR.
As you replaced the chewed up section of cable its best to check all cores.
If you can, disconnect all cores at both ends. Make sure none of the cores are touching each other. The at one end, use your meter to see if any of the cores have shorted. Do this by picking one of the 4 cores (lets say RED) and then with the other lead of the meter check all the other cores. You should get NO beeping. If you do then there is a short in the cable. Repeat the above for all 4 cores.
 
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Tilly

Tilly

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Ok @Tilly , we only need it to beep. We are just checking to see if any of the cables have shorted or broke.
Is it possible to disconnect the cable at both ends?
Can’t editblastnpost.
Ok, so you have a 4 core going to the PIR.
As you replaced the chewed up section of cable its best to check all cores.
If you can, disconnect all cores at both ends. Make sure none of the cores are touching each other. The at one end, use your meter to see if any of the cores have shorted. Do this by picking one of the 4 cores (lets say RED) and then with the other lead of the meter check all the other cores. You should get NO beeping. If you do then there is a short in the cable. Repeat the above for all 4 cores.
Sugar !battery dead in multimeter now . Only got a voltage tester driver now .... is it ok ?
Ok I need shoot out and get a new battery brb

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Can’t editblastnpost.


Sugar !battery dead in multimeter now . Only got a voltage tester driver now .... is it ok ?
Ok I need shoot out and get a new battery brb

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Please don't use the 'voltage tester driver' for testing mails voltages. They can be dangerous.
Oh, I like your nail polish.. :)
 
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Tilly

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Please don't use the 'voltage tester driver' for testing mails voltages. They can be dangerous.
Oh, I like your nail polish.. :)

Wires tested ok.
Ha ha nails just had a major clip and file.... way to long and been battered in tool box
 
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Tilly

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chances are that [email protected] blown a fuse in the panel. check PIRs to see if the LEDs come on when you do the tango. if not, check panel fuses. think there's 3 or4 in that panel.
Ha did the tango, jive and foxtrot, nothing !
Looked at fuses all seemed ok. Will check them again with eyes on ...

Yes there are 4 fuses
 
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Spoon

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Wires tested ok.
Ha ha nails just had a major clip and file.... way to long and been battered in tool box
So there are no shorts in the cable you have repaired.
With the cable disconnected at the alarm box end, are you still getting the alarm problem?
 
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Tilly

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So there are no shorts in the cable you have repaired.
With the cable disconnected at the alarm box end, are you still getting the alarm problem?
Wooooooo sorted. It was a fuse F1 could see it clearly against the blue sky lol

Thanks for your help guys
I’ll be back, hubby might have a go at fitting a new pane l (g4) it’s coming tomorrow.
Should be easy enough take a photo of old one first.
The problem might be with the RKP but we’ll see
 

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Wooooooo sorted. It was a fuse F1 could see it clearly against the blue sky lol

Thanks for your help guys
I’ll be back, hubby might have a go at fitting a new pane l (g4) it’s coming tomorrow.
Should be easy enough take a photo of old one first.
The problem might be with the RKP but we’ll see
Hope it all goes well..
 
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Tilly

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Let me know when you’re fed up with me asking questions.
Alarm is not on speaking terms with me.

I used the engineers code to try part set the system. After code 3 lights came up, I used no 2. Armed alarm, walked across 3 PIR’s .... each one saw me and didn't activate the alarm. ☹
Think it’s safe to say we’re rubbish at programming the blumin thing.
 

telectrix

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have you reset the panel before trying to set it? with the lid back on, try customer code then reset key.
 
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Tilly

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have you reset the panel before trying to set it? with the lid back on, try customer code then reset key.
I put cust code in, pressed reset... exit beeps carried on. Walked past a PIR, light came on but no alarm activation
 
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Tilly

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All sorted out. I bought a new panel, (Compact g4 ) 2 rkp’s.
Rang some one men band up, he came the next day and fitted them for me.
He programmed them so we can have part set , full set etc.
Happy bunny now.
 

martinfbrown

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Great stuff. Thanks for letting us know.
Hi. Just joined the forum. Not an electrician by trade,I am a Mechanical Engineer. Our old alarm was a Logic 4, today, I have just replaced this with an Optima Compact G4. Rather than program out the unused zones,I have just linked them out in the panel. I would like to program a part set for at night, and this wold would be on zone 2. Instructions mention programs 2 or 3, but I don’t know what mine is. I am just asuming that if zone 2 is on program 2, I would set it as follows, code followed by P then press key 2 to isolate that zone. Is this correct? Thanks
Martin
 

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if i rem correct. you programme the zones you want to be off at night as part set omitted.then you have part set 1, part set 2, can have a lookk in the manualtomorrrow when the beer glasses have reset to normal vision.
 

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I just put the code in for the alarm and omit the upstairs sensor zone. Easy..
 

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Spoon has more security on his stockpile of cheesecake than Downing Street has.
Too true.... Naked pic of myself on each cheesecake.... keeps everyone away...
 

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