Another example of why us legit guys are throwing money down the pan

[LlandrilloSpark]

Did an eicr today on a loft conversion wired by an unregistered spark, Eicr was requested by LABC once they realised they were not going to get the paperwork they wanted of this guy.
What we have here is the head guy at my LABC knowing who this guy is and saying "don't matter, your eicr tells us it's safe"
Thus guy blatantly not notifying and nothing is done to stop him

 

[Welchyboy]

I've had to do three or four of these lately for the LABC, builder does the electrics, and plays ignorant

 

[i=p/u]

hit the cu with hammer and say you need new cu aswell , cut the bonding, play their own game, dont get caught

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Lol, brown sleeving missing & earths not terminated in drywall box's was the only things I could find!

 

[SensesFail]

I went to a job today not knowing what it was as the guy wouldn't explain on the phone. Got there and it was to certify a job that had been done by a friend on an extension.When asked who did this the response was vague. Looked at CU and gas bonding wasn't up to scratch! So I kindly left and explaind I wouldn't certify as I had not done the work. Not worth the hassle I reckon and I believe they may struggle to get one. Sparkys should be used a moral of the story!

 

[ruston]

hit the cu with hammer and say you need new cu aswell , cut the bonding, play their own game, dont get caught

Only trouble with that is that you are deliberately making it unsafe . Now that is a criminal act that you would get done for.No win situation there.

 

[Plonker 3]

Did an eicr today on a loft conversion wired by an unregistered spark, Eicr was requested by LABC once they realised they were not going to get the paperwork they wanted of this guy.
What we have here is the head guy at my LABC knowing who this guy is and saying "don't matter, your eicr tells us it's safe"
Thus guy blatantly not notifying and nothing is done to stop him

We if thats the case maybe all us DIs who are part of the scams should not renew our membership and instead just issue a EICR instEad if a EIC

 

[Deleted member 26818]

It's a common misconception that it is the responsibility of the installing electrician to make notification.
It is in fact the person who orders the work or ultimately the house holder who is responsible for making notification.
As such, as long as the electrician is not being pretending to be 'Part P' registered, they are doing nothing wrong, and there is nothing the LABC can do about it.
If the electrician is pretending to be 'Part P' registered, there is still nothing the LABC can do about it.
It would be a matter for Trading Standards.

 

[i=p/u]

at the end of the day, sign what you see fit and note what you dont...

 

[ezzzekiel]

It's a common misconception that it is the responsibility of the installing electrician to make notification.
It is in fact the person who orders the work or ultimately the house holder who is responsible for making notification.
As such, as long as the electrician is not being pretending to be 'Part P' registered, they are doing nothing wrong, and there is nothing the LABC can do about it.
If the electrician is pretending to be 'Part P' registered, there is still nothing the LABC can do about it.
It would be a matter for Trading Standards.

that is interesting info that i wasnt aware off - where can it be taken from for future reference?

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

90% of sparks masquerade themselves as "part p" qualified or registered, total crap but they get away with it

 

[Deleted member 26818]

that is interesting info that i wasnt aware off - where can it be taken from for future reference?

Contact your local council.
Most of them have websites with information about planning applications and notifiying building control.
Here's a link to one: Building Notice
Here's another one: http://www.runnymede.gov.uk/portal/site/buildingcontrol/menuitem.530768b29f9420c1bd34909eaf8ca028/, check out note 1.

 

[ruston]

Contact your local council.
Most of them have websites with information about planning applications and notifiying building control.
Here's a link to one: Building Notice
Here's another one: Building Control > General guidance notes, check out note 1.

A quick myth debunk works wonders.

 

[ayjay]

I went to a job today not knowing what it was as the guy wouldn't explain on the phone. Got there and it was to certify a job that had been done by a friend on an extension.When asked who did this the response was vague. Looked at CU and gas bonding wasn't up to scratch! So I kindly left and explaind I wouldn't certify as I had not done the work. Not worth the hassle I reckon and I believe they may struggle to get one. Sparkys should be used a moral of the story!

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[bigbaddave]

I went to a job today not knowing what it was as the guy wouldn't explain on the phone. Got there and it was to certify a job that had been done by a friend on an extension.When asked who did this the response was vague. Looked at CU and gas bonding wasn't up to scratch! So I kindly left and explaind I wouldn't certify as I had not done the work. Not worth the hassle I reckon and I believe they may struggle to get one. Sparkys should be used a moral of the story!

I had a guy in Fenham do the same. Clearly wired himself. 4MM shower on 40a fuse and diagonal chases in the walls for wall lights. Wanted a db fitting but nothing connecting. But with cert..

I politely declined

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Did an eicr today on a loft conversion wired by an unregistered spark, Eicr was requested by LABC once they realised they were not going to get the paperwork they wanted of this guy.
What we have here is the head guy at my LABC knowing who this guy is and saying "don't matter, your eicr tells us it's safe"
Thus guy blatantly not notifying and nothing is done to stop him

well what you do...is find out who this guys `superior` is.....come on, dont you know theres lots of `official` lookin (and sometimes soundin off) hitlers around these days.....and usually at local government level.........so, what you do is find out who really is in charge there.....and just give them the opportunity to justify themselves (the office, the desk, the salary)......

 

[Matty o]

So what's stopping us from issuing a EICR limited to cover the new work building control get a legit cert and no scam provider is involved

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So what's stopping us from issuing a EICR limited to cover the new work building control get a legit cert and no scam provider is involved

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So what's stopping us from issuing a EICR limited to cover the new work building control get a legit cert and no scam provider is involved

 

[BPW]

So what do people think about the April 2013 changes then when a non-registered or DIY'er will come to an approved to get work signed off and cut out direct contact with LABC?

 

[trev]

So what do people think about the April 2013 changes then when a non-registered or DIY'er will come to an approved to get work signed off and cut out direct contact with LABC?

Lets put it another way. Without spending several chargeable hours conducting your own thorough inspection and test procedure are you going to be prepared to put your name to a legal document which says everything is fine with an installation.

 

[i=p/u]

Non registered spark = not payed to be part of scheme???