Another fuse board change post!

[sparks1973]

Neon Screwdriver ?? :jester:

dont forget the plug in as well.....just to ensure the sockets completely safe.....

 

[Guitarist]

And what do we use then?

I said "many", not all, and I stand by that.
Having started out in industry, and worked in it for about 15 years, I've lost count of the number of electricians who either didn't bother taking test gear home because "It'll be alright", couldn't take gear home because they weren't allowed to, or simply did installs without ever testing. I'd put money on the fact that not many industrial sparks have access to an RCD tester.
This is not a criticism of anyone, just my experience in several large, high profile Companies.

 

[alarm man]

I said "many", not all, and I stand by that.
Having started out in industry, and worked in it for about 15 years, I've lost count of the number of electricians who either didn't bother taking test gear home because "It'll be alright", couldn't take gear home because they weren't allowed to, or simply did installs without ever testing. I'd put money on the fact that not many industrial sparks have access to an RCD tester.
This is not a criticism of anyone, just my experience in several large, high profile Companies.

personally i think this is where THE problem is..domestic spark/commercial spark/industrial spark,all different people these days,once upon a time a spark done all that stuff and no one batted an eyelid on what site they would be on or work they would be doing,wonder how much the hourly rate for all that stuff is these days..

 

[jonnyboy1]

I have a picture somewher of a crabtree starbreaker with all 50A MCBS in it, with no RCDS.

This is a good idea as it stops mcbs tripping due to overload and you wont have any problems with those pesky rcd thingies!

Is that 16mm twin being used as 25mm tails??? :shout::shout:

The op clearly is no electrician

 

[cbw]

Yep sure is!

May have been 10mm T+E All 3 cores were used

 

[jonnyboy1]

Pretty poor

The earth core looks good to touch

 

[Engineer54]

I said "many", not all, and I stand by that.
Having started out in industry, and worked in it for about 15 years, I've lost count of the number of electricians who either didn't bother taking test gear home because "It'll be alright", couldn't take gear home because they weren't allowed to, or simply did installs without ever testing. I'd put money on the fact that not many industrial sparks have access to an RCD tester.
This is not a criticism of anyone, just my experience in several large, high profile Companies.

Not a rebuke Guitarist, but we were using RCD testers when i was training, at my company. Those early units were pretty basic too, compared with modern RCD test kits/MFT's....

My experience would be that, industrial electricians working for recognised large companies will be well versed in just about all the current test kit you would find in a larger domestic installer/contractors kit. They would also be more than conversant with far more specialised electrical test kit, that the general run of the mill domestic electrician wouldn't of even heard of, let alone know how to use it....

Everything is relevant to the times we now live in though i suppose, so things may have changed beyond all my recollection. A real shame if it has!!....

 

[growler]

People will start to get bored of me soon!

So im changing my CU in a few days and im just about to buy all the materials.. just need a little help with direction

Ive already got an 18 way crabtree starbreaker, just need to fill it up and need some help with amp rating and protection

Firstly, i need two rcd's for the split load configuration.. im just a bit confused as to which ones i need..

Whats the difference between the crabtree rcd's that take up 2 spaces on the CU, compared to the one that takes up 3? hmm..

Also what ampage do i need to go for, 63a or 80a?

And is an 8kw shower ok on a 40a MCB?

thanks for the help guys

call an electrician mate

 

[Guitarist]

Not a rebuke Guitarist, but we were using RCD testers when i was training, at my company. Those early units were pretty basic too, compared with modern RCD test kits/MFT's....

My experience would be that, industrial electricians working for recognised large companies will be well versed in just about all the current test kit you would find in a larger domestic installer/contractors kit. They would also be more than conversant with far more specialised electrical test kit, that the general run of the mill domestic electrician wouldn't of even heard of, let alone know how to use it....

Everything is relevant to the times we now live in though i suppose, so things may have changed beyond all my recollection. A real shame if it has!!....

Totally agree Eng. When I was undergoing my apprenticeship back in the 80's, we had to be trained in ALL elements of electrical work, including fault-finding, testing and installation. The last very big company I worked for had a very highly skilled team of electrical engineers, but only a handful of us had any installation and testing experience, as the youngsters had never been required to learn any of this due to the fact that installation was contracted out. The normal test kit these days seems to consist of an IR tester and a multimeter.
My point was that while many younger industrial electricians are trained and deemed competent, most have limited testing experience and many have no installation experience at all. This is why I believe that "having some electrical training" does not mean "do what you like in your own home".
This is not a criticism of anyone, just a sign of the times.

 

[Dave 85]

Im pretty certain this guy is one of the forum regulars with too much time on his hands. Even the name 'mynamesmatt' just reeks of intentional impression of haplessness. If thats actually a word.

 

[sparks1973]

well anybody involved in installation should be fully conversant with the relevent test equipment, the tests to be carried out, the values obtained and how to carry it out in a safe manner with minimum disruption to either occupants and/or other contractors on site.....

 

[Mynamesmatt]

Wow, this forum seems full to the brim of self obsessed know-it-all's that cant wait to get one up on someone. No need for it

Was only seeking a bit of advice and I get slated to the ground.. I'm going to find the information either way, and I'm going to do the work either way.. enjoy wasting your hard earned pennies on that 'part p' thingey majigger everyone :yes:

 

[DPG]

Wow, this forum seems full to the brim of self obsessed know-it-all's that cant wait to get one up on someone. No need for it

Was only seeking a bit of advice and I get slated to the ground.. I'm going to find the information either way, and I'm going to do the work either way.. enjoy wasting your hard earned pennies on that 'part p' thingey majigger everyone :yes:

We'll miss you. Daz

 

[Plonker 3]

Wow, this forum seems full to the brim of self obsessed know-it-all's that cant wait to get one up on someone. No need for it

Was only seeking a bit of advice and I get slated to the ground.. I'm going to find the information either way, and I'm going to do the work either way.. enjoy wasting your hard earned pennies on that 'part p' thingey majigger everyone :yes:

With a attitude like is it surprising no one wants to help you. We have given the best advice in regards to how we feel your comptance deems. Maybe of you want to hear something that none of us are saying you should maybe think there is a reason for that.

 

[Knobhead]

Please close the door as you leave.

 

[cbw]

I would love to be able to post a suitable reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[pencilpusher]

Wow, this forum seems full to the brim of self obsessed know-it-all's that cant wait to get one up on someone. No need for it

Was only seeking a bit of advice and I get slated to the ground.. I'm going to find the information either way, and I'm going to do the work either way.. enjoy wasting your hard earned pennies on that 'part p' thingey majigger everyone :yes:

Anyway, good luck Dennis! Another cowboy fallen from his 'orse.

I think all those on here are lovely actually; EDIT: Well, most of them anyway!! :21:

 

[Guest123]

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