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Well got my elecsa assessment on Tuesday any tips muscly appreciated , and anything you would recommend knowing religiously ( without having to refer to the bgb!!!)
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Building regs eg chase depths, holes in joists and simple things like max RCD trip times.

And of course testing
 

mickytuff

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Be confident in your testing and conduct, nobodys perfect...knowing everything, but as long as you know your job you should be fine bud.....Gudluck!!
 

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Got my NICEIC assessment also on Tuesday, it's went ok for the last 4 years, so I'm hoping the same happens this year.
Just remember their not there to trick you. Just do things as you would any other day
good luck!
 

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Tea and biscuits...
 

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If your looking after the obvious testing, then labels for MET and circuit charts at the board,if you have a top entry CU make sure it is sealed to the relevant IP.
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Chat about part p and what a farce it is he will forget about your assessment lol
Theres also an old thread on here questions to ask a scam assessor
 
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Cheers guys , well this is my first assessment and decided to show them a board change on my brothers house, it's all tested out ok , there was no earth at a fitting that I had to sort and the bonding is all in 10mm so it's all good really , it's just the sort of questions that they will ask that worries me!
 

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Hi,
I've just started a similar post and I think the best advice given to me was to ring them (elecsa) up and ask what they are looking for. When I rang mine they said I would be asked some questions about BS7671 and they also put my mind at rest as to what practical stuff they were looking for. I thought I would need to get a C.U change under my belt, but they said they would be happy seeing at least one new circuit rather than a full C.U change.
Give them a ring, be cheeky and ask.
 

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From my Experience of elecsa, (no longer with them)
They asked a lot of questions on building regulations, electricians guide to building regs was his favourite book to see.
Definitions of IP ratings, and expected results when testing....
Pretty basic stuff really and he always said as long as you know where the info is I don't expect you to know it all!
So you'll be fine ;)
 
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I'm gonna go and get some of those post it tabs in a bit and sticker it up!!
 

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He will spend the first hour or so just getting a feel for your background and how you approach your work. Just make sure you have all your documentation to hand as he will have to record that it is all in order.
The other guys have pretty much covered what is expected, and most of what you will be asked is in the osg and the electricians guide to the building regs, so just keep reading them.
Of course it will be stressful (if it matters to you), but always double-check your answers if you are not sure by looking them up.
Oh, and make sure the CU has all 3 labels on it.
 
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Well got my elecsa assessment on Tuesday any tips muscly appreciated , and anything you would recommend knowing religiously ( without having to refer to the bgb!!!)
Thanks
Make sure you review the check list they provided in the pack you got sent. What they are expecting to see is detailed, then they look at your "job" certificate, invoice and my assessor likes to see a couple of estimates too.
 
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Cheers everyone just trying to get everything prepared !! Getting the biscuits tommorow!!
 

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Just remembered that my assessor asked for proof that I had notified jobs, luckily I had printed out the details for each one.
Also looked through estimates/quotes to see if i had specified the style of fitting, white plastic / Georgian brass etc.
 
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Surely I don't need to do this yet as I only did the change on Thursday
 

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Surely I don't need to do this yet as I only did the change on Thursday
No, you won't need to have notified anything before your assessment with Elecsa.
Ok, one last time....

You are "supposed" to notify LBC in advance that you will be carrying out notifiable work (along with a large fee). Then they come and see what you are up to. Once you complete the work, LBC come back out and sign it off for you.
In reality, most LBC's are not interested, as they know that you will notify it yourself once you become part P registered. NOTE: They only allow this "bending" of the rules for assessment jobs.
I actually did things by the book and spoke to my LBC beforehand (foolishly, you might say), and they made a note that I was carrying out notifiable work for assessment purposes to cover me.

Just relax, and as long as you have done a good job, have all the relevant paperwork in place, and can find the answers in your books, then you will be fine :)
Remember....They WANT you to be in the club.
 
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That's set my mind at ease!! Struggling to find ip ratings in the book any pointers?
 
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I can find the specific bits for for special locations is that what you meant rich?
 

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Cheers everyone just trying to get everything prepared !! Getting the biscuits tommorow!!

Sorry,but if you are this lax with the biscuits,you could undo your good work thus far
It is essential that you not only have "the biscuits" but that you have a full range of the various assortments available

With multi biscuits available the assessment will be as near as damn it irrelevent,it will save on brushing up on all these subjects

Just relax and go with the flow,most of them will be ex sparks who know the game well and are not looking for perfection
 
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Hey I'm not scrounging on the biccies! I'm planning on some caramel & chocolate hob nobs for starters! And I'm gonna go down to my local grocery store and "tell em vinney sent you!" for some Viennese ones!
 
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Hopefully mcvities , at least then I will get a loyalty points!!!
 

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Hi Mate as others have said

Its just like a informal chat were basically he is checking your knowledge and if you dont know the answer were to find it
I was stressed prior to my first one last year but it went smooth and was chuffed to bits when he gave me a A no non conformancies and even congratulated me on my install and design
I had all the documents he wanted to see in a folder and all books available
the questions he asked i knew
but on on about Zs he just asked me to show him even though i knew the value

In the time I have been in touch with elecsa or registered I have found them very helpful and no matter what they are always willing to help or advise unlike the others i contacted who couldnt be bothered to answer emails or give little advice when calling this was my main reason for choosing elecsa

afterwards you will be thinking it was enjoyable aslo dont be afraid to ask him things your unsure on and he will advise

Good Luck Mate sure you will be fine Mine is coming again in october and have already had the reminder of when they will be taking there fee in sept which is the only bit i dont like lol
 
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You can pay it monthly!! Elecsa' fees are nothing compared to my Pli as I have gone in with my dad who is a gas engineer and he uses heat guns! And it's a limited company , we got royally shafted!!
 

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One thing I really can't fault Elecsa on is their tech support. Any little question you have, however stupid it may sound, will be answered within minutes by a friendly sparky.
As the assessor told me last year..."We'd rather you ring us up 9 times a day, than do something you're not sure about". I thought "9 times a day? They must get a lot of Electrical Trainee" :)
 

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one thing i have not seen mentioned is safe isolation, my nic inspector is hot on that.

Make sure you are up to speed with it.
 
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one thing i have not seen mentioned is safe isolation, my nic inspector is hot on that.

Make sure you are up to speed with it.
Oooo wil check up on that , so we talking main switch off before
Cover is removed!!
 
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You can pay it monthly!!
Be careful with this. Yes, you can pay Elecsa monthly BUT you have to pay your entire years worth before you can have your assessment.

This is how it works:

Year 1, month minus 1 - pay Elecsa to join.
Year 1, months 1 to 12 inclusive - pay Elecsa 1/12 of your fees
Year 2, months 1 to 12 inclusive - ditto

So in summary, in your first year, you will pay Elecsa 2 years of money.... so I here you say, you would anyway... well, yes if you pay annually, you would but at least this was you can have the money in your bank, helping your cash flow rather than in Elecsa's bank account helping them.

My Assessor tried selling me this the other week, he thought that it would be easier - I said I would be interested if there was a saving to be made, and as I pay by DD there isn't.
 

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Make sure you review the check list they provided in the pack you got sent. What they are expecting to see is detailed, then they look at your "job" certificate, invoice and my assessor likes to see a couple of estimates too.
Your assessor is a nosey t*at then if you have to show him estimates
 
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Your assessor is a nosey t*at then if have to show him estimates
he's not looking at pricing, he's looking at how the "solutions" are defined and how a customer would understand them. Personally I don't have an issue with it, nothing to hide.
 

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he's not looking at pricing, he's looking at how the "solutions" are defined and how a customer would understand them. Personally I don't have an issue with it, nothing to hide.
Fair enough but he should only be looking at your work and your books (as in regs) and some testing if my assessor wanted that info I would ask if he wants to see my bank balance too lol
 
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