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montybaber

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hope it went well...tell us all about it:)
 
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rumrunner

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hope it went well...tell us all about it:)
Give him a chance ,even Bane should last more than the first morning :)
im sure we will hear all about it in due course :eek: maybee hes joined the cookery class instead.
whats for dinner tonite bane?
 
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Bane

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Give him a chance ,even Bane should last more than the first morning :)
im sure we will hear all about it in due course :eek: maybee hes joined the cookery class instead.
whats for dinner tonite bane?
Just got home, beans on toast tonight Rum! Nothing in the fridge/freezer. Think I'll have to drop kick the missus in the forehead for that.

Will tell you all about college in a couple of hours.

Thanks for asking Monty :)

Actually guys, think I'll have to update you all tomorrow, got a stinking cold and headache and being on the computer doesn't seem to be helping.

Maybe it's just my brain pulsating and pushing against my skull. Hasn't been exercised for a while you see!

Thanks again for asking, speak tomorrow guys!
 
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montybaber

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Ok mate know exactly how you feel first day of my HNC after 10 years out of college I felt like my head was gonna explode:)
 
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tony.towa

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I reckon the instructor will need 24 hours to get over Bane let alone Bane needing a couple of hours to get over college.:D
 
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Bane

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Graaaaahhh!!!!

Right, today? Hmmmm, yes. Well. Not much to say really.

Was just a case of introducing ourselves to each other, was given loads of paperwork, outlining the course up till December. Oh yeah, wired a 13A plug and was told I'd done it wrong (not just me, the whole class) apparently the blue wire isn't live???

Nah, basically we'd all left copper showing, had twisted the wire and hadn't doubled up... And there was me, cocky as fu*k,

"Wire a plug? What fuc*ing idiot can't wire a plug?"

Erm...Me, apparently :)

Oh and was told something by a course tutor that I kept a record of to show you guys.

"Anybody who has done their 16th Edition BEFORE 2004 will have to do the FULL 17th Edition. Anyone who had completed their 16th Edition AFTER 2004 will only have to do the update."

Thoughts?

Note: I was actually very well behaved today Tony!
 
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montybaber

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apparently the blue wire isn't live???
yeah it is dont listen;) seriously though doubling up? have to say I never do (chews on pillow and prepares to get flamed by every forum member):p

I remember having to measure length of each conductor and them being checked by lecturer
 
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Bane

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yeah it is dont listen;) seriously though doubling up? have to say I never do (chews on pillow and prepares to get flamed by every forum member):p
I was told (when I was working) to only double up on the really thin stuff as it's so brittle it keeps breaking once you tighten the screws on it.

I remember having to measure length of each conductor and them being checked by lecturer
Seriously?
 
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rumrunner

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I was told (when I was working) to only double up on the really thin stuff as it's so brittle it keeps breaking once you tighten the screws on it.



Seriously?
All conductors should be doubled over ,if there on there own ,not doing so is crap connecting and results in loose connections and in a lot of cases loss of your job ,so always do it!and why dont the smiles work ,is it my pc ,or is any one else having trouble?
Oh and well done Bane ,it will get easier as you go on mate
 
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montybaber

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All conductors should be doubled over ,if there on there own ,not doing so is crap connecting and results in loose connections and in a lot of cases loss of your job ,so always do it!and why dont the smiles work ,is it my pc ,or is any one else having trouble?
Oh and well done Bane ,it will get easier as you go on mate
IMO depends on csa size (talking stranded here) and if possible on any connection using stranded cable I will use bootlace ferrules not possible in plugs though

still have my job for now though, cant remember a single instance of any of my connections coming loose so there! :p

and yeah Bane seriously to the mm!!!
 
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rumrunner

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IMO depends on csa size (talking stranded here) and if possible on any connection using stranded cable I will use bootlace ferrules not possible in plugs though

still have my job for now though, cant remember a single instance of any of my connections coming loose so there! :p

and yeah Bane seriously to the mm!!!
Good point ,i use bootlace ferrules whenever i can mainly in panels ,i dont think many domestic sparks use them and i know of 4 guys who all at different times have lost there jobs due to crap connections ,one guy didnt even strip the cable ande he connected over 100 lights,about 30 worked ,another guy left so much copper sticking out it shorted on the box ,another fella put some 35mm lugs on an armourd with a hammer,all im saying is crap work does exist and if the company wants to get shot of someone bad connections are a good starting point:)
 
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Bane

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Hi Bane, the 17th edition bit is correct if you took it as part of the 2330, but if it is stand alone (2381) then its Sep 01 or later for the update

and well done on your first day.........:)
Bum.

And there was me thinking I could already have an argument with the course tutor :(

Thanks again for asking people, next week should be more interesting.

One of the guys I met there yesterday asked me what is the big difference between the blue and the brown wires.

"It still works" He said.

....What is the difference? I know blue is neutral, brown is live. I also know, "It still works" isn't an argument!

Is this a stupid question? :eek:

Oh and good to see your smiley's working again Rum ;);)
 
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Hi Bane

Sorry to hear you're not feeling too good at the moment.

I got my first day at Gloucester college this coming Monday. It's been a bit of a long time for me as well since I been in class room, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

I was wondering if I'm going to have buy a lot of books right from the start? Have they given you a list of books to buy?

David
 
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I had a lecturer trying to prove that he could double over 16mm2 meter tails into a main switch. So there are places where it cannot be done ???
 
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Hi Bane

Sorry to hear you're not feeling too good at the moment.

I got my first day at Gloucester college this coming Monday. It's been a bit of a long time for me as well since I been in class room, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

I was wondering if I'm going to have buy a lot of books right from the start? Have they given you a list of books to buy?

David
Good luck David - I finished at Gloscol this summer. Give my best to Chas, Phil etc.. (Lecturers)
 
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Bane

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Hi Bane

Sorry to hear you're not feeling too good at the moment.

I got my first day at Gloucester college this coming Monday. It's been a bit of a long time for me as well since I been in class room, so I'm not too sure what to expect.

I was wondering if I'm going to have buy a lot of books right from the start? Have they given you a list of books to buy?

David
Hi David,

Thanks mate, feeling much better now :)
Like I said, our first day was basically introductions (Hi my name is Chris....). inductions (whilst in the workshop you will not electrocute...) and course outline (throughout this course we will cover...).

As for books, we haven't been told anything yet. I was just told to bring:

Overalls (full)
Safety boots
2 A4 Lever Arch files
Dividersx2 (numbered 1-20)
Plastic wallets (for placing A4 sheets of paper in, I bought 100)
Writing padx2 (One for workshop, one for theory)
Stationary (pens,pencils,ruler etc)
Scientific calculator

Good luck for Monday David!
 
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montybaber

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I start my second year on Oct 1st sh***ing myself a bit!:confused::eek::confused:
 
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Jutt

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Glad it well bane, had my first day today! bit of a shock being back in a classroom but was good!
 
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Bane

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Well, just about to step out the door!

Day 2 of my 2330!

Shall report back later!

Have a good day everyone!
 
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montybaber

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hopefully not such a big headache this week mate
 
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Bane

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Hi Monty.

Have a good weekend? Today went well. VERY basic in the workshop. Learnt minimal radial bends, clip spacing and...That's it, really.

Theory, covered various H&S regulations HASAWA and it's affiliated regs EAWR, building regs, etc.

That's about it really. Seems to be going VERY slow but, I guess it's aimed at complete beginners (which I am).

On another note, have 2 job interviews tomorrow so fingers crossed!!!
 
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montybaber

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great news about the interviews, college is always slow gettin started and believe me you will be wishin you had the time at the end of the year lol

weekend was s**t, thursday was a nightmare had a on the spot Tescos audit on site and that always causes chaos and then Friday was short staffed so I had to do 6am til 10pm! to follow all that had lighting to do (picked up on audit) so very boring hard work (see my thread in tools bit).

but 4 off now :)

who are interviews with?
 
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Bane

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Sorry to hear your weekend was ----, Monty.
6am till 10pm? You must be loaded :)

As for my interviews, one is with a 'mobility scooters' firm. Repairing mobility scooters and electric wheelchairs (think they'll give me one as transport?).
Not ideally what I'm looking for but will tide me over and could be interesting.

Second one is with an electrical contractor. Went in on off chance last week and they said they'd just placed an advert for a fully qualified sparks. Told them that's not me then! Explained I was willing to do most anything.

Anyway, got a phone call today from the Grand Fromage and he said, "Seen your CV and you mentioned you were looking for a labourers job. Is that all your willing to do?"

"No, that's bottom rung of what I want." (then went on to explain my experience, that I'm at college etc)

He said that's great and could I come in to see him tomorrow.

So I am!
 
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tony.towa

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Sounds good for the contractors.

The fact he rang you has got to be promising.

I'll keep them crossed for you (and my fingers!!!!!) :D:D:D
 
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good to here about the job interviews bane ,be patient with the college stuff
 
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Well done bane,

I started my first year of 2330 today too. North London. Was good, nothing doing in workshop as majority of class hadnt bothered to bring steel toe boots. Science was all about transformer and 3 phase. and the theory was about mechanics. movement = distance x force, velocity ratio, trasposing formulaes etc..

Half of the class glazed over and went to sleep. The other half changed colour.

enjoyed it a lot.
 
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montybaber

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Hello mate sorry had to go out this evening

The interviews sound promising (second one more) even the first will be good for experiance and actually would be a good laugh, one of the engineering supervisors where I work had the same job a few years ago and loved it, used to have wheelchair races and stuff round the workshop.

Not entirely sure what your course involves (been a few yrs since my 2360) but any problems i will help if i can (being that i am also back into education and we all need to stick together!!!)

How are you with calculus:)
 
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Bane

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Hello bobajob!

Good to hear your also starting your course and your finding it interesting!
As I said, our theory just seems tobe H&S for now (and will be up until Xmas).

Hello Monty! :)
Calculus, partial fractions, mode, median and mean. No problems mate. Maths is my strong point. Don't worry you['ve still got 2 weeks to get upto scratch!
 
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montybaber

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Calculus, partial fractions, mode, median and mean. No problems mate. Maths is my strong point. Don't worry you['ve still got 2 weeks to get upto scratch!
i'll remember that for sure :)
 
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Bane

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Hi people. Quick update regarding the interviews I had today.

Went to the Mobility Scooters place, soon as I met the Gaffer I took a dislike to him. Workplace was EXTREMELY clean (bonus), but the atmosphere was like the employees were walking on egg shells.

Guy 'interviewed' me, seemed more interested in asking about my private life rather than quals (or lack thereof).
Then said, "If you like going out at the weekend and spending your money, you won't last here!"
Ok, that doesn't bother me (as I'm not a big drinker and my weekends generally consist of the gym and going out for a meal in the evening or having a takeaway and watching a dvd/tv) but what a shi*e comment to come out with, as if I'm 16yrs old.

Anyway, that went ----, said he'd send me an e-mail regarding the job spec (still waiting but not holding my breath).

Just thought I'd let you all know.

(Where the bloody hell is Tony.Towa tonight?)
 
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