bathroom mains voltage downlights

[Daveyboy]

Hi, guys in a bathroom would fitting ip44 downlights be acceptable above a bath? I know the zoning is acceptable but would moisture affect them?

 

[rantoftheday]

yes ip 44 is ok, but circuit must be RCD protected

 

[rantoftheday]

and no the moisture should not adversely effect the lights unless the integrity of the light fitting has been compromised

 

[SPARTYKUS]

depends how high above the bath!!!

Some ceilings make the light fitment area outside zones so in that respect you're usually laughing ..... but there's always common sense as well.

Compared to some lights IP44 is pretty good. How high is the ceiling / whats the depth of the fitting, does it enter ....a zone!

 

[Daveyboy]

outside of the zones as its over 2.25m but i'm curious as to what over people fit as especially if they are over a bath with a shower attatchment where the customer may accidently spray the lights.

 

[Octopus]

IP rated lights on a RCD circuit.

 

[mogga]

haler evolveled no problems

 

[spamwize2]

Hi Mate as you can see from the table below IP 68 would be the best , but it would cost,

Digit	Protection from solid objects	2nd Digit	Protection from moisture
0	No protection	0	No protection
1	Protection against solid objects with diameter greater than 50mm	1	Protection from dripping water
2	Protection against solid objects with diameter greater then 12mm	2	Protection from dripping water when tilted upto 15 degrees
3	Protection against solid objects with diameter greater than 2.5mm	3	Protection from spraying water (rain)
4	Protection against solid objects with diameter greater than 1mm	4	Protection from splashing water
5	Dust protected	5	Protection from water jets
6	Dust tight	6	Protection from heavy seas
		7	Protection from immersion in water
		8	Protection from continuous submersion in water

hope this helps

 

[Silly Sausage]

IP68, that's one hell of a bathroom, is SCUBA gear provided?

 

[spamwize2]

lol wish i had a bathroom like that

 

[AA410]

Halers LED mate look great just done mine in crome 2 in the shower

 

[Darkwood]

dis-regarding the regs i always fit IP65 or higher, the surface temperature of the quartz glass on the filament lamps can be extremely high and if accidently splashed with water can fracture or explode due to thermal shock even a ceiling over 2.25m is easily reached if you drop a hand held shower head, this is an area i believe the regs are not tight enough on.

 

[SW1970]

One thing to bear in mind is that sometimes downlighters of different IP ratings may have come from different manufacturers. I've seen a higher rated downlighter in a walk in shower that has aged at a completely different rate to others in the room. It's bright white; the others are beginning to darken, just 1 year after install. Best to get all the same manufacturer if you can and preferably from the same range. At least then you could take it back within guarantee and attempt to get a replacement if client isn't happy.