Best first step to remedy bypassed domestic RCD box?

[Jay21]

Moved into 60's semi and had work done to renew kitchen, including new induction hob, cooker etc.
3 qualified electricians came to quote and each mentioned that someone had bypassed one of the RCDs (?) in the main box (Branded GET/Schupa), so that circuits to the right of the attached photo are not protected. (marked by yellow arrow)
All wanted to do full PAT and replace box before actually attaching new applicances, which may be fair enough.
But what I don't get is why nobody as yet has suggested simply reinstating the bypassed circuit - and seeing if it trips now that the old appliances (including an old Belling cooker) have been replaced by new ones.
That way I might be able to continue with existing box temporarily (as funds are limited due to having had to do various other works in house).
Any thoughts? Thanks.

 

[buzzlightyear]

oh dear ,looks you will have to pay the three sparks to sort it out for you .

 

[telectrix]

oh dear ,looks you will have to pay the three sparks to sort it out for you .

sod that. he just needs to get a spark with a brain. i'll fix that . no problem. sensible cost.

 

[ipf]

Obviously circuit problems so ask one of the electricians to investigate....with a cost per hour. As regards Portable Appliance Testing....are you meaning EICR, ie. a full installation condition report?

 

[buzzlightyear]

sod that. he just needs to get a spark with a brain. i'll fix that . no problem. sensible cost.

pm him tele ,he not for from you.

 

[Mike177]

Moved into 60's semi and had work done to renew kitchen, including new induction hob, cooker etc.
3 qualified electricians came to quote and each mentioned that someone had bypassed one of the RCDs (?) in the main box (Branded GET/Schupa), so that circuits to the right of the attached photo are not protected. (marked by yellow arrow)
All wanted to do full PAT and replace box before actually attaching new applicances, which may be fair enough.
But what I don't get is why nobody as yet has suggested simply reinstating the bypassed circuit - and seeing if it trips now that the old appliances (including an old Belling cooker) have been replaced by new ones.
That way I might be able to continue with existing box temporarily (as funds are limited due to having had to do various other works in house).View attachment 47864
Any thoughts? Thanks.

 

[Pete999]

pm him tele ,he not for from you.

He's not far away either, sorry Buzz, no insult intended

 

[ipf]

pm him tele ,he not for from you.

A clever person spells correctly....a wise person couldn't care a tinkers w......You must be wise, buzz

 

[Wilko]

Hi - the reason this sort of thing is done is to cover up a fault . It does need fixing ...

 

[telectrix]

can't pm him. his profile does not have the option. strange he gone offline within 20 mins of OP.

 

[Pete999]

can't pm him. his profile does not have the option. strange he gone offline within 20 mins of OP.

He'll be back (Arnold Schwarzenegger) no that's I'll be back isn't it?

 

[Jay21]

Obviously circuit problems so ask one of the electricians to investigate....with a cost per hour. As regards Portable Appliance Testing....are you meaning EICR, ie. a full installation condition report?

Not sure, but £300 seems to be the going rate - then £200 to get the box changed

 

[Jay21]

can't pm him. his profile does not have the option. strange he gone offline within 20 mins of OP.

Yeah, a lot on today. Just wondering why nobody seems to be able to answer the original question i.e. if the RCD has been bypassed, why not connect it up again and test that circuit?? - given the old cooker which might have been the reason for the bypassing (by previous electrician) has now been replaced.
If that solves, a lot less than £500...

 

[ipf]

Not sure, but £300 seems to be the going rate - then £200 to get the box changed

If that's per hour pm tel.....pronto

 

[telectrix]

hmmm.before splashing out that sort of dosh. first thing is to get the fault sorted. then it's time to decide if you want to upgrade the board when there's no legal obligation to do so.

 

[telectrix]

Yeah, a lot on today. Just wondering why nobody seems to be able to answer the original question i.e. if the RCD has been bypassed, why not connect it up again and test that circuit?? - given the old cooker which might have been the reason for the bypassing (by previous electrician) has now been replaced.
If that solves, a lot less than £500...

see post #15

 

[Jay21]

can't pm him. his profile does not have the option. strange he gone offline within 20 mins of OP.

BTW, just to let you know if you look at your Facebook page and click on the website link, it goes off to some American site in Connecticut. HTH.

 

[Jay21]

can't pm him. his profile does not have the option. strange he gone offline within 20 mins of OP.

BTW, just to let you know if you look at your Facebook page and click on the website link, it goes off to some American site in Connecticut. HTH.

hmmm.before splashing out that sort of dosh. first thing is to get the fault sorted. then it's time to decide if you want to upgrade the board when there's no legal obligation to do so.

Yeah, that's what I thought but unfortunately the last three 'free quotes' only resulted in the £500 route. Hence me asking about the bypass reversal here.

 

[Pete999]

hmmm.before splashing out that sort of dosh. first thing is to get the fault sorted. then it's time to decide if you want to upgrade the board when there's no legal obligation to do so.

Is there anything Legal involved? as BS 7671 is NOT a legal document, only an advisory one.

 

[ipf]

If it's original mid sixties wiring with an added kitchen renewal, god knows what you're going to find, though!!