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tedglen2

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Hello – I am hoping to get a new ring set up for the upstairs and downstairs of my house. I have spoken to an electrician and he has agreed that I can run all the cable to all the sockets and just to leave 8 inch of wire and he will come and wire them up and fit new consumer unit.

Only problem is, I have asked him what do I cap with cables with within the walls. He said there is no need? He said plaster can plaster over them, or even I could fill them before skim coat?

Is this ok?
 
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Yes you do not have to use capping, but its only okay in my opinion if you fill the chase as he said.

Screwfix or TLC- Direct will have capping.

I just looked at our forum sponsor Meteor website but did not see any to give you a link.
 

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he is correct. capping chases is not necessary. however, as he's putting his name to the installation, he should inspect the cables before you fill in over them, so as to satisfy himself that they are run in the correct way and undamaged.
 
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thats good news. is there anything i should clip the wires to the wall with ? also what is best to fill them with before plastering over ?
 
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tedglen2

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Also I had someone else tell me that if I fill directly onto cable it will corrode the cable ?
 
2.5 cable clips
 
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tedglen2

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do they fix into brick wall ok ?
 
Only if you buy a good quality brand! (tower are pretty good)

I would still prefer to put capping on though.
 
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tedglen2

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what size capping will i need for two 2.5mm cables ?
 

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Also I had someone else tell me that if I fill directly onto cable it will corrode the cable ?
Your cable is double insulated, the internal provides voltage insulation the outer sheath provides protection against the standard environments the cable would be expected to be fitted in, so who ever told you plaster would corrode the cable is talking out their rear end, hopefully not the electrician who is following your work as this would question what exactly he does know, also to note here is because you are not an electrician make sure you have a copy of On site Guide of either electrical 17th edition or building regs as both these will have guide lines as to cable zoning etc. (you cant just run chases in any manor but have to follow guidelines)
 
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tedglen2

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i am running all the Chases vertical. Is this ok ?
 
The chases are allowed to be ran vertically from the floor or ceiling direct to the accessory or horizontally from one accessory to another.
 
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tedglen2

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thanks for the help !
 
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tedglen2

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i am a bit too .... he just said leave 8 inches on each socket. and make sure to drill holes through joists 2 inch down. is there a max to how many wires i should put through one hole in each joist ?
 
Give him a call Ted, he's getting the work anyway so won't mind. That way all and any questions you have can be answered in one hit and he's got the feeling you're not wasting his time because he's involved right from the off all the way through.
I'd prefer my clients to do that rather than go to an internet forum mate
 
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tedglen2

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lol - you are right, i just didn’t wont to bother him while he at work. is there any where online i can look up regations
 

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lol - you are right, i just didn’t wont to bother him while he at work. is there any where online i can look up regations
You'd need to buy the regs (look up BS7671) but you won't understand much of it........

This book will give a more generalised view "Which?" Book of Wiring and Lighting: Amazon.co.uk: Mike Lawrence: Books It may be at your local library and will include wiring safe zones, where you can drill joists, etc.

But (and i agree with the above) you are supposed to be doing the wiring under the supervision of the person who is going to sign it off as his own work. So he needs to supervise.
 
you are supposed to be doing the wiring under the supervision of the person who is going to sign it off as his own work. So he needs to supervise.
Hence my advice to ring the guy Ted. By rights he should be inspecting the cable runs as they pass through the under floor space and up or down the walls before they are covered over by plaster or floorboards, get on the phone. He's the one with his name on the cert, make him earn his money:)
 
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lol - you are right, i just didn’t wont to bother him while he at work. is there any where online i can look up regations
But you’re quite happy to disturb others get the information he should have given in the first place.
 
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tedglen2

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Tony - calm down, i am trying to learn for myself

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"disturb others" ..... - its a forum you muppet
 
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Ted, this electrician of yours. Is he a Part P approved contractor?

The work you have described will need notifying to the Local Authority Building Control.

The work you are doing on his behalf needs to be inspected and tested in it's entirety by the person signing the work off so I would not fill chases or refit any boards that you have had to lift to run the cables.

If for any reason the spark you are using is not Part P registered then you may wish to contact the LABC to arrange them to inspect and test work before ANY work commences, during and on completion.

If this work does not get signed off appropriately using one of the two options available then you may find that you could end up 1) Not being able to sell your home in the future 2) Your home insurance policy may become null in void and 3) Not very likely but you and the electrician completing the work could be prosecuted and fined up to £5,000.

Oh there is always number 4) The risk of the house burning down or risk of serious injury or death if electrical work is not completed as per the very detailed schedule in design, installation and inspection and testing

Good luck:thumbsup
 
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I very much doubt there is an electrician involved in this job given the questions.
 
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Tony - calm down, i am trying to learn for myself

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"disturb others" ..... - its a forum you muppet
Calling a respected member a muppet isn't going to get you anywhere fast
 
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I agree with others, in that you really should contact your electrician direct as ultimately, he will be responsible for signing the installation certificate.

Good luck.
 
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