Ceiling Rose light to modern light

[JamesL1892]

Hi guys,

I wish to replace a ceiling rose light with a modern light. The current wiring to ceiling rose is as follows:

1 - live (blue and red)
1 - earth (green and yellow)
1- natural (blue)
2 - loops (brown)

My new light fixture only has Connectors for

1 - live
1- natural
1 - earth

I am thinking I can wire the existing live wire and natural cables to respective connectors and use a wago connector to connect the two lopped wires.

Will this work?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Yes! Make sure you use the red sleeved blue wire as the live connection to the light.

 

[JamesL1892]

@Taylortwocities - hey thanks for the prompt response!

Your response is reassuring.

 

[telectrix]

middle terminal is permanent L (2 x browns).
bottom is N (1 from supply and 1 to light)
top is switched L (blue with red sleeve, and brown to light).
if making wago connections above ceiling, they should be enclosed inside a wagobox, with none of the basic insulation (brown/blue etc.) outside the box.
make sure the earths are connected . depending on your new fitting, this may or may not need earthing. manufacturers instructions will say.

 

[Risteard]

That blue should have been sleeved brown, not red.

 

[JamesL1892]

Thank you all for your replies.

It’s been suggested to me that I should use the connector block from the old ceiling rose bracket and stick that in the top of the new light to close the loop.

is that a terrible idea?

 

[telectrix]

all depend on the new fitting. if there's room to make connections in it,(wagos) then the fitting itself provides the enclosure for the connections. don't forget that a wago connects 2 or more of the same. not like a choc block

 

[JamesL1892]

Hey guys this is the finished article.

What does everyone think. Any issues?

I’ve left the connector in the enclosure and wired as described in this thread.

Three questions I mainly want to ask:

1) it was quite a squeeze to get the earth in, does it look okay?

2) the earth has two copper wires of varied length and only one is secured in the terminal block. Is that an issue?

3) should I want somebody to check the wiring should kill the switch to the downstairs lights when not in use?

I’ve never touched electrics before so understandably I’m not confident!

 

[pirate]

Timely reminder there, Tel!
Sometimes overlooked...

 

[DPG]

Both earth strands must be securely fixed I to the connector. And there is a bit too much bare copper showing on that switched live.

Having said that, I've seen worse.

 

[pirate]

No exposed copper at Wago...
elsewhere...

 

[JamesL1892]

No exposed copper at Wago...
elsewhere...

I’m sorry can you explain?

There’s no exposed copper from wago. The copper that’s viable in proximity in corner left of photos is the earth strand

 

[JamesL1892]

Both earth strands must be securely fixed I to the connector. And there is a bit too much bare copper showing on that switched live.

Having said that, I've seen worse.

Would you recommend coiling the one strand around the longer piece or cutting the large one to size?

 

[pirate]

Apologies. I meant that it was good that there was no exposed copper at the Wago, but a little bit elsewhere which might benefit from tidying up.

 

[JamesL1892]

Apologies. I meant that it was good that there was no exposed copper at the Wago, but a little bit elsewhere which might benefit from tidying up.

oh okay, thank you. Appreciated

 

[DPG]

Would you recommend coiling the one strand around the longer piece or cutting the large one to size?

I would make it so that both strands fit comfortably next to each other in the terminal without having to pull them. Then tighten up nice and tight.

 

[JamesL1892]

Hi all. Since fitting this light. I’ve had one bulb go (within a couple of months)
And today a second one keeps blinking/flickering. It’s the bulb that does this. If I move the bulb around to a different bulb socket it’s the same result.

is there an explanation for this?

never previously had any issues with flickering anywhere else in the house or with previous bulb.

any ideas are appreciated

 

[Pete999]

Hi all. Since fitting this light. I’ve had one bulb go (within a couple of months)
And today a second one keeps blinking/flickering. It’s the bulb that does this. If I move the bulb around to a different bulb socket it’s the same result.

is there an explanation for this?

never previously had any issues with flickering anywhere else in the house or with previous bulb.

any ideas are appreciated

Duff Lamp I expect