Changing sockets from single to doubles

[s.banksplumheat]

Hi there,
I have been asked to change out single socket outlets for doubles and add another few sockets.

What do i need to do in regards to paperwork for the customer.

I'm a bit rusty on this as not done any installations for over a year now and just getting back on the job.

Any information would be of value.

Many Thanks

 

[Smugley]

Cheapest way is like-for-like replacement using the clipsal style double socket outlet that screws onto a single backbox. Takes about 2 minutes, so long as the customer is happy with the look of the switches. I wouldn't normally certify such a change but some would say you should... Adding sockets of course is a different matter, and will require all the necessary tests and MEIWC, plus BC notification if in a special location.

 

[s.banksplumheat]

Thanks Smugley,
Do i need to fill in any paperwork as not registered with anyone as yet?.

If he wants to go with a normal socket and i have to chase the wall out then will this change anything from the point of view of the installation in regards for like for like?.

 

[Smugley]

Yep, anything other than like-for-like replacement of an accessory must be certified, so if extending an existing circuit then just a MEIWC. (Personally if I was just chopping out a larger backbox and not extending the wiring I wouldn't bother certifying that either..)

If the extension to the circuit is not in a special location then no BC notification is required. If it is - such as kitchens, outdoors etc then it will require notification. Bit expensive if you're not registered.

 

[simpson93]

got the part p reg infront of me and reading it says
work that is not notifiable:
-adding socket outlets and fused spurs to exsisting circuit
-replace any fixed electrical equippment (socket outlets) which does not include the provision of any new fixed cabling.

 

[Johnny-G]

got the part p reg infront of me and reading it says
work that is not notifiable:
-adding socket outlets and fused spurs to exsisting circuit
-replace any fixed electrical equippment (socket outlets) which does not include the provision of any new fixed cabling.

If you add sockets to an existing circuit in a kitchen or special location then it is notifiable.

 

[IQ Electrical]

Also remember that any certification that you issue, be it MEIWC or EIC will also document your limited involvment in the installation.

 

[s.banksplumheat]

Hi Guy's,
The extra sockets will mot be in special locations, just living room and bedroom, which i will do as a spur.

Hi Simpson, so does this mean that it can be done without documentation?.

Any other ideas on a different way of doing the installation.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

To comply with Bs 7671 you should issue a cert for the work you are proposing.....however Bs 7671 is not statutory so you are not breaking the law if you dont.

 

[not clever]

But any certs you issue are your proof of your competence in court if (hope not) anything should go wrong after you have left the installation.

I issue MWC for changing/adding sockets and the like & notify where required.

 

[simpson93]

yep sorry for not mentioning special locations could have been missleading.
like wirepull has said not actualy needed but is your proof of compitance in court.
good luck!