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Seen a few sparks in my area using the above Logo on their advertising and wondered if any of you guys do.
Personally, I don't think it's necessary, but it certainly makes them look very "qualified" to joe public.
 
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Swicade

Personaly i dont think the public have any clue what the C&G logo means in general....has about as much use as putting Hagar/megger/MK/etc/etc logo's on paperwork IMO.
 
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Spazz

Thats the only reason for it - there is a copyright issue in regards to it as the C&G logo is copyrighted - I used to use it, but not anymore.
Plus as well you can do the C&G 17th Ed course and be C&G qualified!
The only decent course is the BTEC apprenticeship and C&G 2330 but noone is going to have BTEC qualified are they.
 
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Spazz

Personaly i dont think the public have any clue what the C&G logo means in general....has about as much use as putting Hagar/megger/MK/etc/etc logo's on paperwork IMO.
City and Guilds is a nationally recognised qualification, I would say nearly all Joe Public know the quality of the courses (C&G have a good reputation in general), where as all other logos and BTEC are not well know
 
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Guest55

Personaly i dont think the public have any clue what the C&G logo means in general....has about as much use as putting Hagar/megger/MK/etc/etc logo's on paperwork IMO.
I'd dont agree with that assumption Swicade , G&C are recognised at a national and international level as a vocational trainer for everything
from chefs to mechanics , millions of folk have City &Guilds quals , not just construction trades.
 
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Swicade

Fair do's...i stand correct. Maybe wording more than alittle off on my part but can definitely see your point.

Maybe if i said using the C&G logo on paperwork/signwiriting is a way to make oneself look good to a potential customer but can be abused by some to give a false impression that a tradesman is better than they actualy are. More logo's used to better they must be sort of thing.
 
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I raised this point as I have seen a few electricians in my area with the logo on their adverts as well as the side of their vans. One guy I compete for business with has a C&G qualification but that's it, yet I know he quotes for notifiable work. I can only assume that he notifies LBC in advance when doing work of this nature....
As some of you have already said, C&G is recognised by many people throughout many industries and services and it seems a bit odd that someone who has sat the 4 day 17th edition course can "appear" more qualified than someone who doesn't use the logo.
 

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thats just because they want a fee, i put it on mine but im unsure to use it.. yes they are recognised by everyone who has been to tech so nearly every family will know. but i guess they want a fee
 
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Engineer54

City and Guilds is a nationally recognised qualification, I would say nearly all Joe Public know the quality of the courses (C&G have a good reputation in general), where as all other logos and BTEC are not well know
Not anymore, These day's they are just another money making organization, geared up to make maximum income from where and whenever they can. They are nothing like the responsible Institute, they once were....
 
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Octopus

Not anymore, These day's they are just another money making organization, geared up to make maximum income from where and whenever they can. They are nothing like the responsible Institute, they once were....
Quite agree.

Any Tom, Dick or Harry can add any logo to a website and who is there to stop them?
 
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Knobhead

Not anymore, These day's they are just another money making organization, geared up to make maximum income from where and whenever they can. They are nothing like the responsible Institute, they once were....
The Union of Lancashire and Cheshire Institutes and their coat of arms are on my C&G certificates. They carried some weight unlike the C&G as it is now.
 
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alarm man

a qualified spark will have c&g certs,normally stuffed in the back of a cupboard somewhere,why anyone needs to put it on a van or paperwork beats me, it doesnt mean your better than another spark with c&g quals,it may mean youve got a 17th cert only and you may be trying to make out your a qualified spark,quite tacky imo,what next on a van,a 50m swimming badge,gold star you got from primary school,milk monitor supervisor degree..:bucktooth:
 
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Dave 85

The only thing I display on my van is a copy of the Sun on the dash. That's all the information the public need to be sure you are a proper tradesman.
 
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alarm man

The only thing I display on my van is a copy of the Sun on the dash. That's all the information the public need to be sure you are a proper tradesman.
the mirror,flask and bait box,thats a proper tradesmen..:rolleyes4:
 
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Guest55

a qualified spark will have c&g certs,normally stuffed in the back of a cupboard somewhere,why anyone needs to put it on a van or paperwork beats me, it doesnt mean your better than another spark with c&g quals,it may mean youve got a 17th cert only and you may be trying to make out your a qualified spark,quite tacky imo,what next on a van,a 50m swimming badge,gold star you got from primary school,milk monitor supervisor degree..:bucktooth:
Quite a cynical & dismissive outlook you have there alarm man.
Do you have no pride in the qualifications that you've worked hard for ? i know i do.
As for advertising the fact you are C&G qualified , why not if it wins you any work ? just as good a marketing tool as any other logo i can think of.
 
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alarm man

Quite a cynical & dismissive outlook you have there alarm man.
Do you have no pride in the qualifications that you've worked hard for ? i know i do.
As for advertising the fact you are C&G qualified , why not if it wins you any work ? just as good a marketing tool as any other logo i can think of.
not really,a spark was a spark then,he had c&g quals,no need to advertise them,because everyone knew you had them because you were a spark,these days of the diet spark i can see why some might want to put a full fat label on a diet bottle..
 
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Guest55

not really,a spark was a spark then,he had c&g quals,no need to advertise them,because everyone knew you had them because you were a spark,these days of the diet spark i can see why some might want to put a full fat label on a diet bottle..
Fair enough , thats youre opinion and youre entitled to make it , but i doubt many people will share your view.
 
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alarm man

Fair enough , thats youre opinion and youre entitled to make it , but i doubt many people will share your view.
some will some wont,like you say its an opinion.
 
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Litttle Shonet

The only thing I display on my van is a copy of the Sun on the dash
Then your customers know that you'll be working most of the day once you've spent two minutes reading it cover to cover :smilewinkgrin:
 
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oldtimer

Well I use it on my flyers and maybe it is just me but it rings a bell as some customers say it reassuring plus they ask if I am time served and to see my SJIB card I also use it on my website but you need to get permission from them ie submit a copy of your qualifications.

Plus it does not cost a penny and in my view carries more sway that the Schemie badge that you have to pay £600-£700 for and to some of us does not mean a jot but dont get me started on that
 
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sparks1973

well i have City & Guilds qualified inspector & tester on my flyer...not the logo but....;)
 
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To be honest, the more logos you can put on your van the better, from an advertising point of view.
As has already been said, Mrs Bloggs form number 22 doesn't have a clue what all the logos mean, but if you have lots it will "appear" that you are very qualified. At the moment I have the Elecsa and Trustmark logos which look good, but I will happily use anything which gets me more work :)
 
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sparks1973

To be honest, the more logos you can put on your van the better, from an advertising point of view.
As has already been said, Mrs Bloggs form number 22 doesn't have a clue what all the logos mean, but if you have lots it will "appear" that you are very qualified. At the moment I have the Elecsa and Trustmark logos which look good, but I will happily use anything which gets me more work :)
watch it dont look `over qualified` though....like some of those turnips that claim to do this n that...but end up showing themselves up as emptyheads.....
 
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alarm man

i'll be glad when the summer is over,get more work in the winter when ive got me work coat on..

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Swicade

I'd avoid wearing a MOD's parker during the olympic games though
 
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