Class 2 Spur to outside socket

[oracle]

"Class 2" Spur off kitchen ring to IP 56 locked S/O. on outside wall of garden flat. Customer unhappy with unsatisfactory EICR. "It's always locked and I only use it to charge my laptop when I'm sitting at the garden table". I pointed out that it was wrong and I can't let it go, things change and one day, someone will plug in something. and get hurt.

 

[westward10]

What is a Class II spur when it is at home?

 

[telectrix]

What is a Class II spur when it is at home?

sounds like it may be connected without a cpc in the cable??

 

[James]

when you say class 2 do you mean as in the classes for portable appliances?

If so, I am assuming you have found a socket with no earth and the argument for it being ok is that it is only used for class2 appliances.

Write it up as unsatisfactory and move on!!

 

[westward10]

sounds like it may be connected without a cpc in the cable??

My thoughts also, why not say that. Why can't I get the "agree" to work.

 

[Petej999]

sounds like it may be connected without a cpc in the cable??

What a double insulated socket???? for the OP whats a class 2 spur? like Westward, I aint never heard of a class 2 Spur, doubt very much if anyone else has.

 

[telectrix]

class 2 spurs....... John Wayne had a pair for every day use. the class 1's were reserved for Sunday best.

 

[buzzlightyear]

2 hell I will, who's will.

 

[buzzlightyear]

2 hell I will, who's will.

There you go again stumpy.

 

[Julie.]

Class II shaver socket to bs 4573 (no transformer)?

 

[brianmoooore]

He has an IP56 shaver socket in the garden?? Bit unusual, but can't see a problem with it. What he uses it for is not the concern of the inspector.
Must have a cpc in the supply cable to it though.

 

[Julie.]

Well the op doesn't say there is no cpc, just it's a class II.

So it's just my guess that it might be a transformerless shaver socket, but it would be limited to 200mA of course, probably OK for a laptop, although should be only for shavers.

Agree, if it is this, there isn't any regulation preventing it's placement (assuming it's outside of 3m from the room containing a bath or shower ?).

Where he chooses to shave is up to him.

 

[telectrix]

Where he chooses to shave is up to him.

Armpits or Pubics?

 

[Julie.]

Where he chooses to shave is up to him.

Armpits or Pubics?

As I said, up to him, not judging...

 

[oracle]

He has an IP56 shaver socket in the garden?? Bit unusual, but can't see a problem with it. What he uses it for is not the concern of the inspector.
Must have a cpc in the supply cable to it though.

No cpc, 2 core supply

 

[oracle]

Well the op doesn't say there is no cpc, just it's a class II.

So it's just my guess that it might be a transformerless shaver socket, but it would be limited to 200mA of course, probably OK for a laptop, although should be only for shavers.

Agree, if it is this, there isn't any regulation preventing it's placement (assuming it's outside of 3m from the room containing a bath or shower ?).

Where he chooses to shave is up to him.

So i should change fuse in the FCU to 200 mA from 13 to comply ?

 

[telectrix]

you should change the cable as a priority.

 

[oracle]

What is a Class II spur when it is at home?

Senior moment, should read Class 2, IP 56, 2 pin S/O fed by 13A FCU taken off kitchen ring.

 

[Deleted account]

Still a little confused.

external rated 2 pin socket fitted outside fed from a ring. It is fused down with a 13A FSU and the feed cable has no earth.

is this correct?

what size are the conductors?

is the 2 pin socket a shaver type socket or….. ?

picture would help. If you can’t get picture from on site a similar picture from internet search would be good.

 

[oracle]

1. Correct
2. Twi core 2.5mm copper
3. 2 flat pin shaver type S/O fitted to lockable IP 56 box.