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As a letting agent the council have a legal obligation to update their installation, if indeed they thought the property was still council owned they could consider legal action to gain access.
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I'm very happy to report here that " i spoke to management it looks like some mess up has happened on their end it seems like it was a group letter that went out and didnt get it in that we own it lmao but they are still advising us to get the work done. he said its nothing to actually do with them its just they are doing it to all houses in the area as it was one of their house so it still counts kind of as in the group just a courtesy thing. but it got all mixed up"
You were absolutely right Rockingit - great guess .... Thanks everyone for your input.... Stay safe
Are they going to send you the rep
I have advised him to secure a copy of the report. Yes access was granted before the lockdown - the council just made a totally stupid threat that was a clerical error so problem is sorted thanks mate - he is going to have the work done by his own choice of contractor when Covid is no longer a threat to his Mum - Thanks again to everybody who tried to help - some great feedback ...So did anyone access the property to do an EICR or was it just a letter that was sent?
Not really. The person ordering the report is the only person entitled to a copy. Unless the property is covered by the 2020 Private Rented Sector legislation, in which case the landlord is obligated to supply a copy of any EICR ordered by the landlord.Are you absolutely sure that a copy of the report was not given to your friends Mother, I don't think any electrician would leave the premises without giving one to the occupier or informing them it will be in the post the next day, I would ring the council and ask for a copy.
Thanks for clarifying : ) I will pass that on to him...Not really. The person ordering the report is the only person entitled to a copy. Unless the property is covered by the 2020 Private Rented Sector legislation, in which case the landlord is obligated to supply a copy of any EICR ordered by the landlord.
Regs State - The person ordering the report should have received the 'original' report and the inspector should have retained a duplicate. The Original report should be retained and be made available to any person inspecting or undertaking work on the installation in the future.I thought that the legislation says a copy must be supplied to the "user"?
I certainly wouldn't hand a copy of the Report over to the tenant before leaving the premises. For a start I wouldn't have compiled the Report at that stage, as this would need to be finalised and cross-checked on the computer later. Furthermore I would only ever send the Report to the person ordering the work.Are you absolutely sure that a copy of the report was not given to your friends Mother, I don't think any electrician would leave the premises without giving one to the occupier or informing them it will be in the post the next day, I would ring the council and ask for a copy.
The forms I have state:
"You should have received an original Certificate and the contractor should have retained a duplicate. If you were the person ordering this report, but not the owner of the installation, you should pass this Report, or a full copy of it, immediately to the user."
Regs State - The person ordering the report should have received the 'original' report and the inspector should have retained a duplicate. The Original report should be retained and be made available to any person inspecting or undertaking work on the installation in the future.Which means it’s the person who ordered the report would should pass it on to the user, not the electrician.
I would still want to see it just in case there is anything needing more immediate attention.I can't see any reason they wouldn't give him/sparks a copy but its not a big thing ... the future choice of contractor would likely prefer to do his own anyway... we know the installation is out of date so becomes irrelevant with a rewire... he'll need installation cert after the work is done...
Does not the Electrician have a duty of care to ensure that the report is passed on?Which means it’s the person who ordered the report would should pass it on to the user, not the electrician.
Does not the Electrician have a duty of care to ensure that the report is passed on?
Having a copy of a previous EICR would allow a new contractor the opportunity to assess if any deterioration has occurred, between reports, if as someone has suggested it's not important then we may as well throw them in the bin as soon as they are completed.
I think if you've notified them then your duty of care has been discharged.Not according to the wording of either the regs or the certificates you copied from. Morally and ethically I agree with you, but that’s not the same as a requirement and it’s not what the regs actually say.
Ultimately it’s the responsibility of the person ordering the report to ensure it is passed on to the relevant people be it a tenant, end user, next inspector or a different contractor doing remedials or other works. The regs make clear that the inspector only has to give the report to the person ordering it, what they do with it is up to them.
Just for arguments sake what if you carried out an EICR for a private homeowner found some C2’s and provided a quote for the remedial work. How far does your duty of care extend if the homeowner decides they don’t want the work doing even though you know the installation is unsafe for continued use and have reported as such to them?
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