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Evening fellas

halfway thru an inspection on a 11 room hotel, found quite a few C1 & C2 but was wondering about this:-

In the main entrance hall there is a "fuse box" about 7ft from the floor level, i use the term fuse box lightly, it contains 5 porcelain 15A fuses, it has no main switch and is fed from a 32A BS3036 6ft below, the "cover" to this unit is wood and maybe original to the building (1894), the cover stays shut with a loose hook of sorts, there is no bus bar cover.

Is this another C1 as there is access to live parts...without a tool?

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So you are saying that anyone could reach up, unhook the door and stick their digits on a live busbar?
 
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Wasn't saying anything, was asking for an opinion
 

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Evening fellas

halfway thru an inspection on a 11 room hotel, found quite a few C1 & C2 but was wondering about this:-

In the main entrance hall there is a "fuse box" about 7ft from the floor level, i use the term fuse box lightly, it contains 5 porcelain 15A fuses, it has no main switch and is fed from a 32A BS3036 6ft below, the "cover" to this unit is wood and maybe original to the building (1894), the cover stays shut with a loose hook of sorts, there is no bus bar cover.

Is this another C1 as there is access to live parts...without a tool?

cheers
well it could be construed as nothing more than `placing out of reach`....in an area woth unskilled/uninstructed persons....whatever it aint secure is it...so theres barriers n enclosures n all.....
 

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I'd consider rotting rubber cables in a kindling box a potential fire hazard....are the neutrals fused?


Alternately it could be a display piece, current place Im working in wants one of them put back for show :smile5:
 

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Reach down Guitarist, reading the post the feeding CU is 1 ft off the ground.
Llandrillo, I think you answered your own question mate, just before you said cheers:)
You're right trev, read it the wrong way.
Llan, you definitely answered your own question there mate :)
 

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I'd consider rotting rubber cables in a kindling box a potential fire hazard....are the neutrals fused?


Alternately it could be a display piece, current place Im working in wants one of them put back for show :smile5:
i had one kicking about a while back....little 4 way with a glass paneled door on the front....the fuse carriers were long, thin white porcelane....probably dated from the 20s-early 30s.....i think i slung it though together with other crap.....
 

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"it has no main switch and is fed from a 32A BS3036 6ft below, the "cover" to this unit is wood and maybe original to the building (1894), the cover stays shut with a loose hook of sorts, there is no bus bar cover."

One foot from the floor, in a box held closed by a hook with no bus bar cover! Code 1 all day long mate. How long would take for a child in a lobby of a hotel to stick their fingers in that after they work out how difficult a hook is to open.

No win, no fee written all over this one I think.
 
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Engineer54

When the OP stated ''6 foot below'' i was thinking from a basement area. lol!!!
 
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