Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

[LewisM]

A little before and after

 

[ipf]

What are the smaller set of cables for?

 

[SparkySy]

Some more quality wiring for your contemplation!
Called to a small commercial unit this morning with some lights not working, this building is from approximately early 80s and has been bodged to bu@@ery!

 

[LewisM]

What are the smaller set of cables for?

Feeds a 15A breaker then the oldest RCD 16a socket made which is used for a small compressor

 

[sarky spark]

A new type of connector…….

 

[Raptor0014]

10/10 for ingenuity and -10/10 for safety!

A new type of connector…….View attachment 93851

 

[Mike Johnson]

Got a call out to a tripping cooker, which turned out to be a faulty light in it.

Anyhoo, pulled the cooker out to get access in the back of it and was presented this awesome workmanship and attention to detail.
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Don't the back of all cupboards look like that?

 

[Dustydazzler]

A new type of connector…….View attachment 93851

This has to be spoof

That can't be an actual live working wire connection...

Can it

 

[Julie.]

This has to be spoof

That can't be an actual live working wire connection...

Can it

Yes, if it was for real the one on the neutral would be blue!

 

[Simon47]

That can't be an actual live working wire connection...

My guess is that the wires are twisted - which we all know is a time honoured and reliable connection method. But then the innovative bit is using the plugs as insulators - probably more reliable than a few turns of tape

 

[pc1966]

That can't be an actual live working wire connection...

Well our American cousins are very fond ot wire nuts, which are just slightly polished versions of them.

And yes, it is similar to something else you can't/shouldn't polish...

 

[LewisM]

This has to be spoof

That can't be an actual live working wire connection...

Can it

I've seen the old twist and tape done many a time, even on socket circuits which have been like it for years without a sign of arcing pitting etc

 

[ipf]

A new type of connector…….View attachment 93851

The new 'in-plug' connector..........rather than 'plug-in' version, I take it.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I've seen the old twist and tape done many a time, even on socket circuits which have been like it for years without a sign of arcing pitting etc

Oh yes I have seen 100s of twist and tape jobs which as you say have been in a wall or under the floor boards for decades and in full use without issue

I was questioning the use of brown wall plugs which I thought the OP might have stuck over the cables as a bit of a 'joke'

 

[Raptor0014]

I have no words. Fortunately I’m ripping it all out tomorrow and putting it into one board.

Doing the EICR prior and here is a selection from the plethora of issues I’ve found

 

[Dustydazzler]

The sad thing is the original board was probably quite neat and tidy before all the cavity wall insulation was pumped into the walls and then followed by all the wiring additions and lash ups

 

[James]

If they are polystyrene balls, the whole cable installation is scrap.
if they are polypropylene then it is just the thermal effects you have to consider.

 

[Raptor0014]

If they are polystyrene balls, the whole cable installation is scrap.
if they are polypropylene then it is just the thermal effects you have to consider.

I am told it’s polypropylene. It was only done in Dec so I’d hope it was to modern standards. But I’m not sure how I could prove one way or the other.

Client is going to check with the company that did it. I hope they have good insurance that will cover removal and a possible rewire if it’s the former.

 

[lozarus]

An important reminder on safe isolation - no matter how simple the job. Replacing emergency light fittings:

Isolated CCT at DB. LNE terminals all checked between and confirmed safe to work on.

Note the grey T&E with taped up ends also entering the enclosure.

It would have been easy to assume this was dead, or at least connected to the circuit just isolated that feeds the luminarie (in singles)

Nope.

Fed from an entirely different circuit, still live with tape over the ends. I assume a previous worker found it, couldn't trace it and left it with tape over. Very poor show.

The second photo shows my repair once I'd traced the circuit and made good - just to explain in pictures what I'm probably not doing very well with words.

Volt stick came in handy here. Obviously testing the luminaire with my contact Fluke probes - but it's hard to probe something that's been cut flush with tape wrapped around it....

This is the sort of stupid stuff that kills people.

 

[Raptor0014]

To add more info to the post I made yesterday.

I have a 100A cutout (confirmed as 100A by DNO as they put in an isolator for me in Dec) which feeds in to the property on 16mm tails (25mm to meter and 25mm to isolator then 16mm in)

This leads to a upfront 80A 30mA RCD. Which feeds the main board.

Then there is a feed from the RCD to a Henley block which feeds the board below and that has a 80A 100mA RCD switch and the sockets, cooker and 1 of the showers is on this board.

Then there is a second set of tails jammed into the top of the 100mA RCD feeding the third board on the bottom left which has a 40A 30mA RCD switch.

I’ve put the first pic on again to make it easy to see what I’m describing.