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Spent most of the day reconnecting swa cables at lighting bollards as none of the armour has been earthed. Pretty straight forward cables plenty of length, the outer casings come off the bollards and the sun is out. Three to go then this, needless to say the circuit now has three less lights on it.View attachment 51889
Mean while at the top of the pillar we have a silver birch well and truly rooted into the lightCustomer with two brick pillars either side of drive entrance. Wants lights (which funnily enough don’t work) on top of each pillar replaced. There’s brick lights with junction boxes and T&E at the base of each pillar. See pic I believe the main feed from the house is SWA so hoping with a bit of digging I can find the end but suspect the loop to the other pillar is just buried T&E so they may have two hopes of me sorting it without disturbing their nice block paved drive.View attachment 51900
Always amazes me how adaptable life is, which does bode well for the planet long after we’ve f****d up it’s present form.
These people are getting million pound contracts... awful practices. Need reporting tbh. I wouldn't want another glenfell incident on my conscience.Unfortunately this is very typical penny pinching , I have done new builds where you would be handed box of Stuff to do a job.
No blue sleeve , no brown sleeve , no grommets , no nothing.
Just told don’t bother with any of that stuff and just chuck it in.
I have very often supplied my own grommets and sleeve just to feel better how I leave the job.
Showing loose connection. Board was live and signed offThat last photo is a looped neutral, not a switchwire without brown sleeving. Or were you showing us a loose connection?
The cpc's should have been connected to the metal backbox. Why waste money on a bit of choc block connector when the box has one already there.
Back in the UK’s pre EU days all Leyland and Dagenham made cars used to look like that after a couple of years. Good thing is there are probably legions of 70 pluses out there who are dab hands with wire brushes and fibreglass who could patch that up in no time.
I was thinking it was probably very damp.Presumably as the earthed metal disappears the insulation readings to earth go up!
No, but I recall the jokes around the time, no picture it's probably the picture valve. Later used for transistorised tv's, also. I repair most things these days.With a name like picturevalve, I bet you're an ex TV repairer.
No cover over the bar and it looks a little long?No the earth cable you see has been used as the neutral link from main switch with black tape . Take a closer look at the bus bar
No Look at how the bus bar connects to the main switch a bit of 4mm cable !!!!!!!!!!No cover over the bar and it looks a little long?
I thought we were looking for something strange. Busbar with no cover is hardly a rare occurrence.
Almost correct The bus bar is connected to the main switch by some 4mm cableA join in the bus bar at the first MCB?
Yes... because to access it you need to know it's there. In this particular example you can argue well there is likely to be a connection point for the downlight so you have an idea something might be there, but in general if I can't see it when the jobs finished I consider it to be inaccessible.Just a question
Who would treat this situation as inaccessible?
Presumably, any problem with the lighting point would result in removal....resulting in access.
Well. if it's there it's there, if it's not it's not......but it's the first place you'd look for it. I'll use my years in the job as experience in making a decision.Yes... because to access it you need to know it's there. In this particular example you can argue well there is likely to be a connection point for the downlight so you have an idea something might be there, but in general if I can't see it when the jobs finished I consider it to be inaccessible.
There are extremes.....and stupidity. Some, with the basic crap they're being taught, or just presuming maybe, can't handle either.This is one massive downside to this MF box phenomenon
In this instance imo it’s perfectly acceptable to use a DL hole to shove a nicely made joint box
But I have seen sparks bury these MF joints under concrete screed floors as they can be non accessible by definition
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