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after getting several sub 1 ohm L-e readings around the circuit, finally ame to end of line and got 0.07 ohms. so i says to Simon " fault is approx 2m away. when we cut into the board and pulled the cable out, it was 1. 8m from the end.

Nice to see the thoeries work eh!
 
I wander if they have special gloves they wear when fitting halogen 'bulbs'....
there's a 5 week course on how to put the gloves on the correct hands. only £5500 + VAT.
 
Took a little beating with a hammer and chisel to reveal this when I saw the two T+E cables disappearing into the wall via a mortar joint :)

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That 0.75mm flex feeds the extractor hood. The earth that disappears into the wall I think provides an earth for an outside light. The two T+E leaving the bottom of the cooker switch supply the oven :eek:

And now for a close up of that classy back box wiring.

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Quality job... thank fully I'm rewiring the kitchen.

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That cable on the right runs round to the other side of the room where it feeds a double socket that supplies the washing machine and dishwasher, then up to a double socket above the counter, through the wall into the lounge and three more double sockets.

Oh and did I mention the secondary supply cable that drops down the wall and joins in the fun via a buried ceramic terminal block (but at least they wrapped it in tape)? :mad:

'kin unbelievable.
 
Took a little beating with a hammer and chisel to reveal this when I saw the two T+E cables disappearing into the wall via a mortar joint :)

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That 0.75mm flex feeds the extractor hood. The earth that disappears into the wall I think provides an earth for an outside light. The two T+E leaving the bottom of the cooker switch supply the oven :eek:

And now for a close up of that classy back box wiring.

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Quality job... thank fully I'm rewiring the kitchen.

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That cable on the right runs round to the other side of the room where it feeds a double socket that supplies the washing machine and dishwasher, then up to a double socket above the counter, through the wall into the lounge and three more double sockets.

Oh and did I mention the secondary supply cable that drops down the wall and joins in the fun via a buried ceramic terminal block (but at least they wrapped it in tape)? :mad:

'kin unbelievable.
You see these things and surprised how something more serious hasn't happened.
 
Just out of curiosity does that single cable feeding the dishwasher/washing machine/etc show any signs of deterioration? Bet it's spot on!!
 
You see these things and surprised how something more serious hasn't happened.

The total supply current to that abomination was 45A, courtesy of 30A via the 6mm cooker feed and 15A via the 2.5mm on the other side. One of the jobs I did there previously when I rewired the lighting circuit and nearly killed myself was replace a socket outlet which had a component fall off inside and sit itself across the line/earth. I suspect both cables were providing the supply until that accessory failure. After that, possibly just the cooker cable.

And to answer your question @sparksburnout , no... no signs of thermal damage, but I haven't touched it yet, could be a bit crispy and I haven't opened the back box yet either, but the socket outlet shows no signs of thermal damage.
 
You see these things and surprised how something more serious hasn't happened.

Absolutely.

A couple of weeks ago I did a light change. Tested Zs and found it was bad, so went investigating. Fuse holder for circuit in question wasn't clamping the busbar properly, 50A breaker was just pressing against the busbar (the spigot wasn't in the cage clamp), cables for a 30A socket circuit weren't clamped properly.

And last night went to a nuisance RCD only to find one of the 32A MCBs it was supplying was just pressed against the busbar.

People must just chuck this stuff in and not give it a second thought. I honestly don't know how they can sleep at night.
 
This point was raised in one of the reference books I've got, it was published in the late 1930's so don't hold your breath for anything actually happening in our lifetimes!
It’s already a legal requirement per the last Scottish Housing Act for tenanted properties. 5 yearly, PAT testing and mains fire alarms. Progress is being made :)
 
It was the fire alarm engineer. He was so horrified that the board was low enough for children to get too so wrote it on when he was trying to find the emergancy lights marked ‘EL’ in the photo. He told the owners so fair play to him.
 

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