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as long as the breaker is rated so that Ib<In < Iz (of the smallest csa cable), it's fine.

Spurring off is ok obviously

Then you have fixed loads immersion etc where the CSA may be smaller than the fixed wiring and also accessories such as pendants where the wiring is smaller which is ok

If you take the cover off a DB and there's a 6 sq connected into a 20 amp MCB because someone has downrated the final circuit somewhere along it's length

Well I don't agree with that
 
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Spurring off is ok obviously

Then you have fixed loads immersion etc where the CSA may be smaller than the fixed wiring and also accessories such as pendants where the wiring is smaller which is ok

If you take the cover off a DB and there's a 6 sq connected into a 20 amp MCB because someone has downrated the final circuit somewhere along it's length

Well I don't agree with that
If there's a schedule with the circuit details on, I don't see a problem.
 
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If you're doing the job you leave a schedule at the db.

Anyway, If I find a 6mm in a 20amp breaker, I think there must be a reason?
If someone just says 'that's wrong. I'm gonna change it to a 30amp' it's a damn site more shoddy and a lot more bad practice, I reckon.
 
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If you're doing the job you leave a schedule at the db.

Anyway, If I find a 6mm in a 20amp breaker, I think there must be a reason?
If someone just says 'that's wrong. I'm gonna change it to a 30amp' it's a damn site more shoddy and a lot more bad practice, I reckon.
Fair enough ok
 
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This was a job done for a customer of mine a week ago, the building contractor used their own electrician as the quoted work was all inclusive. Oh dear, I wonder which circuits are new??
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Doing some remedial work for a failed EICR and was drilling through for a 10mm bond, damn that was lucky!!
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First pic
This was a job done for a customer of mine a week ago, the building contractor used their own electrician as the quoted work was all inclusive. Oh dear, I wonder which circuits are new??
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Doing some remedial work for a failed EICR and was drilling through for a 10mm bond, damn that was lucky!!
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it's a bullseye, and here's your host, Drill Bowen.
 
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First pic
This was a job done for a customer of mine a week ago, the building contractor used their own electrician as the quoted work was all inclusive. Oh dear, I wonder which circuits are new??
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Doing some remedial work for a failed EICR and was drilling through for a 10mm bond, damn that was lucky!!
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Were you trained by Artisan Electrics Drilling Company by any chance?
 
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This was in an old cottage, the Wall was 750mm thick and I had took it off hammer for the last bit, it was damn lucky that it didn't break the tile or hit the pipes or wiring! I breathed a sigh of relief!

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I think I've been doing this since before artisan started, seems like it some days anyway😄
 
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… there's a light switch we can't take off because like your pictures, some ***wit tiled around it.
There are some elements of some trades that I really 'kin hate.

* One day I'll carefully rake out the grout around it, but then it'll need a spacer frame grouting in as the tiles won't be behind it to screw it down onto.
Yup, it’s a shame there isn’t something like an nice-looking oversize grid plate available for exactly this issue. Like you can get to reduce the huge holes where giant cfl or PAR ceiling lights once sat.
 
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Yes, roofers repairing the roof started the fire when sparks from their grinders showered down on to fabrics inside the building. It was a major incident. 15 fire engines, road closure, railway line closure etc.
I remember them doing for a 4core 35mm with nail gun when they were changing some clear roof panels. Nothing like yours... but it could have been if they'd have done it above the paint mix area.
 
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Yes, roofers repairing the roof started the fire when sparks from their grinders showered down on to fabrics inside the building. It was a major incident. 15 fire engines, road closure, railway line closure etc.
Hope they got down alright lol
 
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Yes, roofers repairing the roof started the fire when sparks from their grinders showered down on to fabrics inside the building. It was a major incident. 15 fire engines, road closure, railway line closure etc.
Reason I asked is that I attended a similar situation a few years back.

The destruction was devastating, all caused by heat escaping from a kiln that caused a flat wooden roof to combust. I spent quite a bit of time with the fire investigator to determine if an electrical fault had been initially to blame. It turned out to be a combination of mechanical and operator error, creating a very unusual situation, which in hindsight, could have been avoided but was not pre-empted in the safe working assessment or RAMS.

It was quite interesting being part of the investigation team.
 

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