Electrician gone Awol

[telectrix]

I spent ages trying to contact my gardener once...I was pretty annoyed that he never answered his mobile phone, nor returned my messages...then I saw his obituary in the local paper, and found out he had killed himself. Very sad.
Months later, by pure chance, I was moving some plant pots near the front door, and found the plastic bag with £100 quid in it which I had left for him for work already done. I gave it to a local mental health charity.
There's always a story...

vert charitable of you, but you have destroyed your pirate image. your street cred. is now in Davy Jones's locker, 15,000 ft. down, alongside the Bismark. .

 

[pirate]

Ah, Tel...you have not read the book I recommended in another thread! Be More Pirate.
You will see that Pirates were generous, charitable, religious and had a social security system too!

OK, they did kill people, sometimes...
but let's not get bogged down by details!

2,500 fathoms, by the way!

 

[ruston]

Ah, Tel...you have not read the book I recommended in another thread! Be More Pirate.
You will see that Pirates were generous, charitable, and had a social security system too!

OK, they did kill people, sometimes...
but let's not get bogged down by details!

2,500 fathoms, by the way!

So did Gladiators , but I get your drift.

 

[telectrix]

Ah, Tel...you have not read the book I recommended in another thread! Be More Pirate.
You will see that Pirates were generous, charitable, religious and had a social security system too!

OK, they did kill people, sometimes...
but let's not get bogged down by details!

2,500 fathoms, by the way!

You will see that Pirates were generous, charitable, religious

and Heinrich Himmler was a rabbi.

 

[pirate]

Erm...not sure you are correct there, Tel...
I think you'll find he wasn't...
a rabbit...
But quite a nasty man...

 

[Charlie_]

Aaaaaaarrrrgghhhhh yes the easter rabbi jim lad

 

[pirate]

However, I mustn't let my prejudice show on an open forum, so everyone to their own opinion! LOL!

 

[Midwest]

I thought I'd strayed into a mobile phone forum, in a thread about Gods & pirates.

Nope, it is an electricians forum.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I’m glad the OP has not followed the advice of some members about contacting his employer. What is that going to achieve apart from getting him in the S**t? Proper Bertie Smalls!

 

[Midwest]

Does make you think how things change. I did loads of cash private jobs, whilst working for companies, when I was younger.

Never had insurance if it went Pete Tong, never registered it with LBC if required (not that it was, way back then), never thought about telling my employer (although site foreman knew, as we chatted about such stuff in tea hut), never told HMRC , never offered a warranty as it never went wrong, never did a CDM assessment (does anybody), never completed a test certificate,never sent an invoice and waited a month to get paid and never spent a Bank Holiday weekend chatting about it on a ‘forum’ (who’d thought of them).

Life was so less complicated back then

 

[telectrix]

 

[Rabidruffryder]

You basically employed him to do the work cheap (cash in hand) knowing he shouldn't be doing it, so as they say 'pay cheap pay twice.'

There is no correlation between paying someone in cash and the cheapness/expense of the job paid for.

 

[buzzlightyear]

There is no correlation between paying someone in cash and the cheapness/expense of the job paid for.

how ever op, some peaple dont think before hand the consequence if some one has not returned.or not part p the job .

 

[7029 dave]

Does make you think how things change. I did loads of cash private jobs, whilst working for companies, when I was younger.

Never had insurance if it went Pete Tong, never registered it with LBC if required (not that it was, way back then), never thought about telling my employer (although site foreman knew, as we chatted about such stuff in tea hut), never told HMRC , never offered a warranty as it never went wrong, never did a CDM assessment (does anybody), never completed a test certificate,never sent an invoice and waited a month to get paid and never spent a Bank Holiday weekend chatting about it on a ‘forum’ (who’d thought of them).

Life was so less complicated back then

SNAP, but it was all very different back in the day.!!

 

[freddo]

or not part p the job .

I use that as an excuse all the time when people ask me to do private work. 'Can't do it, not Part P registered'

 

[peterhyper]

There is no correlation between paying someone in cash and the cheapness/expense of the job paid for.

Clearly there is some correlation because you knew he was moonlighting and it was a cash in hand job,so you wanted a cheap job or you would have employed a registered electrical who would highly unlikely ask for cash, and you must have also been aware that he couldn't issue the required electrical certificate so was doing the work illegally.

By paying cash in hand, I'm sure you weren't naive enough to think he would be paying the taxman his cut of it.

 

[Rabidruffryder]

Clearly there is some correlation because you knew he was moonlighting and it was a cash in hand job,so you wanted a cheap job or you would have employed a registered electrical who would highly unlikely ask for cash, and you must have also been aware that he couldn't issue the required electrical certificate so was doing the work illegally.

By paying cash in hand, I'm sure you weren't naive enough to think he would be paying the taxman his cut of it.

Firstly I was naive enough to not realise that such small works would require any type of certificate, ergo I didn't realise there was anything illegal about the situation. Secondly I prefer to pay a person the value they have placed on their own labour (if I agree with said value, then to a business that is extracting surplus value from their workforce. To be Frank you have no idea whether I paid the sparky more or less than what private businesses quoted for the job..maybe I just really liked the guy, you assume the gentleman doesn't pay his taxes, you assume he asked me to pay in cash rather than me offering because I was cash rich at that moment.....this pointless speculation and judgement around his and or my motives is unproductive and groundless.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I have just been to a job nice C/u fitted customer taken down class 1 fitting to decorate no earths .
Now class2 in place.spark did not tell the customer no earths and no paper work.
Tuff old world is init.

 

[peterhyper]

Firstly I was naive enough to not realise that such small works would require any type of certificate, ergo I didn't realise there was anything illegal about the situation. Secondly I prefer to pay a person the value they have placed on their own labour (if I agree with said value, then to a business that is extracting surplus value from their workforce. To be Frank you have no idea whether I paid the sparky more or less than what private businesses quoted for the job..maybe I just really liked the guy, you assume the gentleman doesn't pay his taxes, you assume he asked me to pay in cash rather than me offering because I was cash rich at that moment.....this pointless speculation and judgement around his and or my motives is unproductive and groundless.

Apologies, I hadn't considered how much you might have really liked him, and the fact that he was moonlighting and you were paying cash was purely a coincidence as you had a wad of cash due being cash rich, and you didn't get any other quotes so might have even been paying well over the odds, but you were happy with that due to the bond you felt towards this man (who has now unfortunately disappeared).

I have obviously grossly misjudged the situation.

 

[Spoon]

So then @Rabidruffryder , is the electricians phone still dead?