Domestic Ethernet for CCTV

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Beeg

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Evening all.

I have a home CCTV system which I had connected to my broadband router with Ethernet power line adapters. These have recently stopped working and I am looking to replace with Ethernet cable between DVR and router.

It will be running under the floorboards in the bedroom and then coming out the ceiling in the hall and down the wall to the router.

Would appreciate any advice on best type / manufacturer to go for. I don’t want to just buy the cheapest I can get as it will be a PITA to replace when it breaks every 6 months :sweatsmile:

Thanks in advance

P.S. I wasn’t sure whether to post this in CCTV or computer and networking so apologies if I’ve chosen the wrong forum!
 

SWD

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What make of cameras and DVR/NVR do you have, as BL mentioned run CAT 5 cable bt you will need a switch that supports or provides POE (Power over Ethernet) to power the cameras unless you want to wire in power points and use POE injectors for the cameras.
 
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Beeg

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What make of cameras and DVR/NVR do you have, as BL mentioned run CAT 5 cable bt you will need a switch that supports or provides POE (Power over Ethernet) to power the cameras unless you want to wire in power points and use POE injectors for the cameras.
SWD, I don’t think I explained myself too clearly in OP. The cameras are connected to the DVR with BNC connectors and powered from a mains PSU. The Ethernet is just to connect the DVR to my router to enable me to use the app on my phone when I’m away from home. Sorry for any confusion and thanks for your help.
 
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Beeg

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For that type of job you need to use cat 5 cable and then make you ends to suit.
Thanks Buzz, is it better to do it this way than buy the ones with the RJ45 connector already fitted? It’s only a short run ( <10 metres)
 

rsgaz

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any advice on best type
Just make sure it is 24AWG pure solid copper and not CCA or CCS cable (copper clad aluminium/steel).
than buy the ones with the RJ45 connector already fitted?
Don't buy ready made leads, they will be stranded patch cable. For fixed wiring it should be solid cable, with a wall mounted socket at each end, IDC connection. Then you use a short stranded patch cable at both ends.
 

SWD

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Where are you based Beeg as someone could make you up a cable.
 
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Beeg

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Thanks everyone for all the advice... managed to sort one now. ... Pure copper 24 AWG.
Thanks again for everyone’s help :)
 

driverman

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Hi guys, interesting thread. I'm a novice re CCTV installs.
I'm in the same boat as OP. I'm installing CCTV at home.
DVR unit going in loft. 24 volt supply for cameras in loft.
Router, straight forward install, approx 10m away via loft and into cupboard where router sited.
Set up for PC and phone.
I'm in the South Lincs area.
Thanks
 
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Beeg

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I’ve got a 4 channel Comelit DVR which seems to be a good system, however the mobile app is pretty shocking.
Does anyone know if it’s possible to use another app to view my cameras?

Thanks
Beeg
 

RonaldMC

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Hmmm. How much cameras do you have? I think if you are not going to add any more than 4 cameras to the system then you would be able to choose a 4 channel NVR, however if there is the possibility that you may add additional cameras in the future then you would want to future proof your system and choose a larger one, as you cannot add more cameras than channels to an NVR.
 

shaun1

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The loft is a good idea from a security point of view but remember the ambient temp can get very high in summer (and very low in winter if its a cold roof space) which could shorten the lifespan of the box, particulaly the hard drive.
 

driverman

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what's with every body putting those in the lofts .
Manufacture recommended loft position. In my particular case, it's a new build house already completed. So it's a matter of ease of installation with no cables showing. Also the noise of the hardrive/fan running is overcome.
 

RonaldMC

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Hmmm. How much cameras do you have? I think if you are not going to add any more than 4 cameras to the system then you would be able to choose a 4 channel NVR, however if there is the possibility that you may add additional cameras in the future then you would want to future proof your system and choose a larger one, as you cannot add more cameras than channels to an NVR.
Perhaps I will buy several tomorrow.
 
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Beeg

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Hi, where did you purchase cable from? Was
it on line or local?
I bought it from tvcables.co.uk. It’s a 10 metre pure copper 24 AWG with RJ45 connectors already fitted both ends.
I know it has been recommended on this thread to buy the cable and then cut to length and fit the connectors myself but I just wanted to get it done as quickly as possible.

One thing to note is that the outer sheath of the cable doesn’t seem top quality, particularly where it is attached to the connectors. However it works fine and as it is a fixed installation I can’t see it being too much of an issue.
I was being particularly fussy about having a white one as the drop from the ceiling to the router is on show. The majority seem to be grey/beige but if you don’t mind this then you might have access to a wider range of higher quality cables.

Beege
 
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Beeg

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Hmmm. How much cameras do you have? I think if you are not going to add any more than 4 cameras to the system then you would be able to choose a 4 channel NVR, however if there is the possibility that you may add additional cameras in the future then you would want to future proof your system and choose a larger one, as you cannot add more cameras than channels to an NVR.
I think I may have found a solution....I’m working on using a DNS service (no-ip.com) which will allow me to use a 3rd party application. However if this doesn’t work then I will bear in mind your suggestion :) thabks for the advice

Beege
 

CCTV-Tec-Guy

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Evening all.

I have a home CCTV system which I had connected to my broadband router with Ethernet power line adapters. These have recently stopped working and I am looking to replace with Ethernet cable between DVR and router.

It will be running under the floorboards in the bedroom and then coming out the ceiling in the hall and down the wall to the router.

Would appreciate any advice on best type / manufacturer to go for. I don’t want to just buy the cheapest I can get as it will be a PITA to replace when it breaks every 6 months :sweatsmile:

Thanks in advance

P.S. I wasn’t sure whether to post this in CCTV or computer and networking so apologies if I’ve chosen the wrong forum!
The way to go would be to purchase an NVR recorder with POE less cables to worry about, run it in cat 5 or cat six. Its more than likely a faulty connection or your IP address, to explain if you do not have a static ip address every time you disconnect your router or CCTV from your router you will loose your connection you will then have to do the port forwarding every time this happens, hope this helps in some way
 

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