EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[Midwest]

I think it says, whatever the Great British Public vote, than that's wots gonna happen. You can't change your mind retrospectively 'cos in a few years time say 'we made the wrong decision' lets change it. If we OUT we ain't getting back IN. If we're IN, we can't keep having this debate about being IN. Whatever the decision, lets just stick to it, I think that's wot people need to entertain, otherwise there's no point in having a referendum, something Sturgeon should get into her head.

 

[Darkwood]

I think its a real shame just for a lesson to sturgeon that they didn't get independence, after the oil prices bottomed out after the vote it would have seen Scotland in a very bad position as she gambled the Scottish economy on the then price of oil with only a little buffer and not a massive collapse in barrel prices that occured, it a question she always avoids directly answering what put to her.

 

[Adam W]

I was referring to post 413 in my comment Adam, not your previous post re Brown.

What? I wrote post #413. What is it you want clarification on Andy, or do you just want to challenge everything I post?

 

[andyb]

What? I wrote post #413. What is it you want clarification on Andy, or do you just want to challenge everything I post?

I think you've misunderstood me Adam, I've not really challenged anything you've said.
I know you wrote post 413, I never attributed the line re ''anyone who is against immigration is a "racist" and/or a "bigot" to you. I know that you were suggesting that Tony Blair introduced the notion. My reply was with that in mind.
Anyway, I'm sorry for giving you the impression that I was just challenging you for the sake of it.

 

[Octopus]

I did get your point DW. My point was that he's a politician, I don't think he'll have a problem with going back on his word.

Hum....... do you believe ANY politician these days? I sure don't

 

[jackhammerJIM]

To start with i believed the horror stories that leaving would destroy our trading ability in Europe and plunge us back into recession .
Having looked into it more there are plenty of countries trading in and with Europe who are not members of the union so i say rubbish to it lets leave .

The EU reminds me of Sepp Blatter and FIFA an absolute corrupt shambles

 

[Darkwood]

The issue with been in the EU is any member has limitation slapped on them as to who and how much they can trade outside the EU - WHY! This is to ringfence and protect the EU's markets and industries at the cost of members trade growth with the rest of the world also the consequence is it also stop external competition with a knock on effect of us paying higher prices for lower quality goods in some industries. If we leave, and the EU knows this, it would give us access to a larger consumer choice and the EU fears the competition would see our preferences for better quality, cheaper goods thus they loose some of our vital trade to there cost.

 

[Octopus]

Did you know that MEP's can't suggest new laws? Its all driven by the unelected commissioners.

Not very democratic, me thinks!

 

[Darkwood]

Did you know that MEP's can't suggest new laws? Its all driven by the unelected commissioners.

Not very democratic, me thinks!

The can suggest but it would be futile unless it was already on the EU's shopping list. :shame:

 

[telectrix]

1 million UK jobs have been taken by EU migrants in the last 5 years. UK economic growth has been held back by EU red tape, inefficiency and corruption. now is the timw to get out once and for all. if the vote is to remain, then we're fooked forever.

 

[Spoon]

Sad thing is, is that I keep hearing 'change is bad' from people.......

 

[sparksburnout]

Well that little yellow bar keeps creeping up, lets hope its it reflects the hopeful outcome............

 

[Marvo]

I doubt the poll is anything close to accurate across the whole UK population, the forum members are predominantly from the working/middle class. From what I've seen most of the polls are pretty close to a 50/50 split. https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

 

[Octopus]

I doubt the poll is anything close to accurate across the whole UK population, the forum members are predominantly from the working/middle class. From what I've seen most of the polls are pretty close to a 50/50 split. https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

I was with 3 other people today.3 out, 1 in BUT he is only in because hev is trying to invest his tax evaded 14 year investment in Spain. Yes 14 years rental and 14 years of Surrey capital gains not declared!

 

[micknew]

Looks like he's on the side of common sense lol.
Joey Essex question leaves Ed Miliband stumped - ITV News

 

[sparksburnout]

The more I see of Ed Miliband the more I think he's a complete idiot. I watched him on question time, he's no idea about anything. His brother is a waste of space as well.

 

[Darkwood]

The infamous dumbest pirrock stumped the in campaign lol .... you can't really get worse than that :shocked3:

 

[Marvo]

I did a bit of scratching around to see the arguments for staying in a for exiting. I haven't lived in the UK since half way through the Thatcher years so much of the finer points of the arguments on both sides were lost on me but the one thing I did notice is how differently the two campaigns are structured.

You've got the exit side pointing to many of the UK's current woes and saying how these would improve if you were out of the EU.

Then you've got the stay side who don't seem to be pointing to much apart from fear mongering about numerous years of reduced trade and possible recession. The biggest worry for me is that most of the noise about how UK should stay in the EU is coming from other countries. Everyone from France to the US to the G7 leaders seem to want the UK to stay. Obviously none of the above are looking out for anyone other than themselves so to me it looks like remaining is definately doing everyone else a big favour but I'm not seeing any evidence it would actually be good for the UK.

 

[norcal]

How do you think the vote will go? Checked the poll here & most were for leave, but these polls are not accurate & and"regular" polls can be swayed by the way questions are phrased, so they are not always accurate either.

 

[Midwest]

Plus there's the small matter of turn out for the poll here, so to use a well known saying, 'there's lies, down right lies and statistics', closely followed by polls. Hope the turn out for the 23rd is high, or whatever the result, we will be having this all over again in a few years time.