extract fan on ceiling above the shower tray

[hoover]

Not an inline fan. Is this good pratice in your opinion? Its outwith zone 1 and rcd protection. Thanks in advance.

 

[Octopus]

If its outside zone 1 then its technically OK, but IMHO its bad practice.

Are you looking at a new install or are you doing a PIR?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Has it got the appropriate IP rating for its location, if yes, then no problem, if no then no, irrespective of RCD or whatever else.

Cheers.........Howard

 

[pennywise]

is it a 12V fan

 

[hoover]

If its outside zone 1 then its technically OK, but IMHO its bad practice.

Are you looking at a new install or are you doing a PIR?

Doing a pir mate. Yeah bad practice i thought as the fan is only about a foot above your head.

 

[hoover]

Not sure of the ip rating. Its a 230v fan.

 

[telectrix]

if it's only a foot above your head, then either it's a low ceiling or you're very tall.

 

[pennywise]

if it's only a foot above your head, then either it's a low ceiling or you're very tall.

Some crappy bedsits have shower cubicles that could only be described as leaky wardrobes :smug2:

 

[baldsparkies]

Should be IPX4 or better, or SELV from what you say.

 

[Octopus]

if it's only a foot above your head, then either it's a low ceiling or you're very tall.

If its a low ceiling then won't it be in zone 1?

 

[telectrix]

quite possibly. time for the tape measure.

 

[NICK C SPARKS]

Don,t understand why bad practice if ip 44 rcd protected it complys with regs and the niceic leaflets ?

 

[baldsparkies]

quite possibly. time for the tape measure.

And a link like this can help, Bathroom Zones Explained - Fantronix Limited

 

[baldsparkies]

Although its 230v, its probably class 2 insulated (they usually are) and you have RCD protection from what you say. If it was my pir and tape measure info took you inside zone 2, I would code 4 it. But thats me.

 

[NICK C SPARKS]

Cant code 4 it thats for not complying with bs 7671 it does comply from whats been wrote

 

[baldsparkies]

Cant code 4 it thats for not complying with bs 7671 it does comply from whats been wrote

The poster doesn't know the IP rating, and its only a foot above his head, as said if its within zone 2, and 230v, and not IPX4 < I still reckon code 4 so far.

 

[yellowvanman]

Surely if its in Zone 2 and not IPX4 then its a code 2 as it doesn't comply with existing regs?

 

[baldsparkies]

Nope code 4 for non compliance with current regs, code 2 is a bit ott from what we are reading here. My thoughts though, its the inspectors call.

Here we go http://www.d2a.co.uk/completed_files/Periodic inspection.pdf

Lets not forget, if we give this a code 2 we are by virtue saying the install is unsatisfactory. That would be a harsh call under the circumstances IMHO.

 

[truckster]

Provided it is suitable for the environment (IPX4) and its fixed it can be in zone 1 so not a code anyway.

 

[baldsparkies]

Provided it is suitable for the environment (IPX4) and its fixed it can be in zone 1 so not a code anyway.

No one has disputed this truckster, the coding scenario comments are being made against xtract fans that are NOT above IPX4.
As said previously, the OP is unsure of the IP rating.
Thats why codings are being mentioned. If its IP4X your comments regarding suitabilty within a zone 1 and zone 2 environment are not in question, so indeed no codings would apply.