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I didn't know that ring mains weren't used anymore, although I independently stopped using rings ages ago. Whenever, I encounter an old ring, I assume it is broken and downgrade to 20amp.

He doesn't mean the ring form isn't used any more. He means the terminology for a domestic ring circuit is 'RFC' and has been for some time.

Surely you don't just downgrade every ring circuit you come across as a matter of course??
 
He doesn't mean the ring form isn't used any more. He means the terminology for a domestic ring circuit is 'RFC' and has been for some time.

Surely you don't just downgrade every ring circuit you come across as a matter of course??
If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.
 
I do know what ring final circuit is, I just haven't heard it referred to as RFC.

I didn't know that ring mains weren't used anymore, although I independently stopped using rings ages ago. Whenever, I encounter an old ring, I assume it is broken and downgrade to 20amp.
Why?
 
If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.

Each to their own.
Not originally for heating systems no - just for general domestic use. Copper shortages and all that.
 
If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.
Ahh the good old NICEIC says it’s good. Why leave a kitchen on a ring and not other circuits?
 
If I do work on it I do, with the possible exception of a kitchen or utilities circuit, since they might need the extra juice. NICEIC assessor thought it was a good idea. Besides, I thought the UK was moving away from rings, since they were originally used for old school heating systems.
You mean you are a member of a CPScheme as you say you had a NICEIC Assessor look at your work?
 
Because it is safer to assume the ring is broken and downgrade. It's rare that someone needs 32 amps anymore.

Fluke socket tester
Fluke multimeter
Fluke multifunction tester, i.e. installation tester
Why use 3 items of test equipment when one of those listed is all that that you needed to use? What is the make and model of your multifunction tester?
 
Ahh the good old NICEIC says it’s good. Why leave a kitchen on a ring and not other circuits?
I don't necessarily and might sometimes downgrade it. However, if I do a full rewire, I tend to do the ground, 1st floor, etc., as a radial on a 20amp. I put the kitchen on a ring (32amp), simply because the appliances might demand it.
 
I don't necessarily and might sometimes downgrade it. However, if I do a full rewire, I tend to do the ground, 1st floor, etc., as a radial on a 20amp. I put the kitchen on a ring (32amp), simply because the appliances might demand it.
Hang on you mentioned existing circuits. Not new ones.
 

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