Fire maintenance testing

[Farmelectrics]

Is there anyone who can help how long does it take to test smoke heads in an office enviroment ie covering them with the rod and smoke testing them a company came into are work at weekend 2 men and said they'd tested 300 heads in 2 hours now in my opinion that's not possible your thoughts please or are they just blogging it

 

[jay sean]

more than 2hrs,

 

[happyhippy68]

More than 2 hours.

 

[tazz]

The average panel takes 30-40 secounds to auto reset in test mode, not taking account of walking around the office, I would say to test a detector takes 2 minutes (smoke + auto reset) so 300 detecors is 600 minutes or 10 hours. It is also pointless have two men, only one detector can be tested at a time.

 

[Farmelectrics]

Thought as much didn't say anything not my place to but when he said to me we've finished I said the whole building he replied yes there was only 300 and there was two of us haha 2 hours and they were gone the same firm pat tested over 5000 items in a weekend there's some blagging going on in this maintenance world

 

[KAS1]

I couldn't find 300 in two hours lol

 

[i=p/u]

Yeah have seen guys with spray can recently and he didn't test every room.. Probably couple on each loop...

 

[Farmelectrics]

It's a good game to be in haha it's been an eye opener seeing this firm do all sorts of maintenance fixed wire testing £8 a circuit £1 per pat test turn up with the fire testing gear do a few and blagging the rest with the attitude if something goes wrong it was all right when we tested it and he client is happy he's had a cheap job got the paper work to say its alright it's bomb proof un real I watche d them with the fixed wire testing all they done was a quick visual and do the live tests

 

[i=p/u]

Aye we access then do what we see fit.

One guy we worked with when ring testing he did loops and zs and on test sheet he calculated r1 and r2 by adding loops together , and no1 picked this up. So

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Hey ho my deario

 

[tazz]

Its a shame these jack of all trade maintanence companies are poping up and giving the fire industry a bad name, We have to carry every spare going, as we can not leave premises unprotected, unlike these companies who will be back next week with a new detector. It happens quite often, we find convetional smoke detectors not working, so doing an 25% or a 100% test needs to be that and not just the odd detector in a corridor. I can see why are old customers are coming back.

 

[Farmelectrics]

totally agree tazz there getting away with it at the moment though

 

[Engineer54]

Thought as much didn't say anything not my place to but when he said to me we've finished I said the whole building he replied yes there was only 300 and there was two of us haha 2 hours and they were gone the same firm pat tested over 5000 items in a weekend there's some blagging going on in this maintenance world

To be honest if you have actually seen these things going on with this contracting company, it ''IS'' your place to say something. Keeping quite only encourages these bad and potentially dangerous practices to continue.

 

[Farmelectrics]

Told the contracts manager but been told to back off something funny going on brown envelopes come to mind

 

[NrVolts]

so the claim rests at about 2.5 detectors tested per minute.no .thats just not possible unless they are able to get to each detector without any delay at all one after the other.
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