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Hi all.

I’m looking at buying a PAYG tracker with ---- off option.

I need to wire the unit to live, neutral, the ignition and then to a relay which can shut off the power to the starter motor.

I have just bought a Range Rove Evoque 2013 and wondered the best way to pick up the starter motor cable. Would there and could I pick it up from the fuse box in the glove box (if it’s in that one) and cut that and connect to the relay?

I have push button start so what effect will it have when I push the button as I guess the old manual key crank system would just keep trying to turn over unsuccessfully. Will this do the same or just do nothing?

Thanks in advance.
We’ve.
 

James

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I think this may be a bit to complex for you to undertake on your own,
Best advice is to find a good auto electrician, many are mobile and will get that sorted in an hour or 2
 

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As above , don't mess about with it. They are so complicated and fickle that any interference or alteration (especially cutting and adding circuits to existing wires) can start your worst nightmare and untold damage to the delicate electrical systems.
Bit harsh but true. :)
 
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I am quite competent with electrics and micro electronics. Built several large projects using microprocessors, relays, solenoids, soldering, etc. I have all the tools that should be needed just wanted to confirm I am doing the right thing by fitting it in that position. I didn't pay an electrician to do any of the wiring in my house so don't really want to pay one to install a single relay if I can help it.
 

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I do not doubt you have done electrics in your house and possibly in vehicles.

I do wonder how you completed the testing and what paperwork you provided to building control.

Your description of connect to live neutral and ignition, tells me everything I need to know about your level of compitance regarding auto electrics.

I strongly recommend that you leave it well alone.
 

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I didn't pay an electrician to do any of the wiring in my house so don't really want to pay one to install a single relay if I can help it.
So you don't see the need to pay an electrician to do the electrical work in your house, and now you also want free advice from electricians regarding your auto electrics issue.
 
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I was just writing it expecting people to be able to understand what I mean.

I need to connect the red wire to a constant +ve 12vDC supply, the black to the -'ve and the yellow to the switchable live ignition accessory wire. I then need to find a suitable location to place in-line a 12v 40A normally open relay which releases upon a negative connection of the circuit. Will you help me know?
 
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So you don't see the need to pay an electrician to do the electrical work in your house, and now you also want free advice from electricians regarding your auto electrics issue.
Apologies, I thought that's what forums were for, to help people and share your knowledge. At least thats what I do with things I know about. Clearly not.
 
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I do wonder how you completed the testing and what paperwork you provided to building control.
Nothing that I have done requires any sort of inspection, however my good friend IS an electrician and would guide me or do any bits that needed to be done by a qualified spark if it needed it.
 

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It's just the way post #4 came across. Perhaps it's just me.

I'm sure if someone comes on here who knows the answer they will tell you - there are some very helpful and very knowledgable people on here.
 

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Nothing that I have done requires any sort of inspection, however my good friend IS an electrician and would guide me or do any bits that needed to be done by a qualified spark if it needed it.
All household wiring installation work requires testing.
 
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All household wiring installation work requires testing.
Its only things like running a fused spur, changing my lights from rose to DL, but that whole post 4 wasn't to belittle or be funny, it was just to get across that I am not someone who doesn't know what end of a soldering iron gets hot, I wanted to tell you that I know more than the average DUYer. I also used to install sound systems when I was a boy racer so I'm used to digging out cables and doing works in cars, I just wanted to confirm that what I planned on doing, was in fact the right way to do it and there wasn't an easier/better way of doing it.
 
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Well, the system you are planning on installing is unbelievably dated and easy to fool and override.

Honestly, if you are looking to protect your new vehicle from theft, get a decent system installed for you that links to the ECU, it'll probably reduce your insurance premium at the same time.
 
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Most security devices on vehicles are positioned somewhere that is not easily accessible.
However with trackers, they have to be positioned where they can send and receive a signal, and often need to be accessed to change batteries or SIM cards.

Your first task, is to determine where it would be best to place the unit.
Somewhere where a thief would not easily find it, bau where you will be able to access the unit without too much hassle.
Your next task will be to check whether the position you have chosen will allow the unit to send and receive a signal.

You will need to run wiring to somewhere on the vehicle where you can obtain a switched and unswitched supply, such as the ignition switch, radio or fuse box. You will also need to run wiring to the start button , start relay or starter motor.
It may be that you can kill two bird with one stone, by connecting the switched supply and the wires to break the start circuit somewhere between the ignition switch and the start button?

Without looking at the vehicle and the unit, it’s not really possible to offer much more advice.
 

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I am quite competent with electrics and micro electronics. Built several large projects using microprocessors, relays, solenoids, soldering, etc. I have all the tools that should be needed just wanted to confirm I am doing the right thing by fitting it in that position. I didn't pay an electrician to do any of the wiring in my house so don't really want to pay one to install a single relay if I can help it.
That's all marvellous and you can own all the tools in the world but it still won't change the fact that the electronic systems in a range rover are somewhat fragile. They are well known for throwing a fit with the slightest alteration so be careful to research the specifics of the vehicle first.
 
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