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TITLE SHOULD BE GOBSMACKED... (Sorted that for you re' -'Darkwood')

Hi all, been a while since I posted.

I went to a job today and removed a socket for inspection. All I done was removed the socket screws, the terminations were not altered at all, literally just took the front screws out so I could the wiring.

I get a phone call, ten minutes after I've left the property, from my boss telling me I need to put in a minor works certificate, as I removed the front screws?! I cleared with him that I didn't adjust any terminals, only removed the front screws. Still said we had to fill in the minor works.

Am I right, or has he gone nuts?
 
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Strima

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Seems like a waste of a cert to me.
 
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The whole reason terminals are required to be accessible, is so they nabe tightened up every so often, because terminals become loose over time.
This is maintenance.
MEIWCs are for alterations or additions to existing circuits, not for maintenance.
 

Charlie_

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Was it a commercial job?
Might not be his idea could just be the policy of the client, your boss probably just wants paying
 

Pete999

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TITLE SHOULD BE GOBSMACKED...

Hi all, been a while since I posted.

I went to a job today and removed a socket for inspection. All I done was removed the socket screws, the terminations were not altered at all, literally just took the front screws out so I could the wiring.

I get a phone call, ten minutes after I've left the property, from my boss telling me I need to put in a minor works certificate, as I removed the front screws?! I cleared with him that I didn't adjust any terminals, only removed the front screws. Still said we had to fill in the minor works.

Am I right, or has he gone nuts?
Sounds like your "Boss" is a bit of a Jobsworth and has no idea of the regulations regarding certification, is he an Electrician type person, or someone who thinks he is? a sort of boil in the bag one.
 

littlespark

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He will need some form of paperwork for the client to prove you have been and inspected it.

Was that all the job was? What was the reason to check that socket? Intermittent power, or heating up?

Did you check the tightness of the terminals? If so, was the power off?

Yes, waste of a cert, but do as boss says. Just write “visual inspection only” on it in bold black pen
 

snowhead

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As above many times, it's most likely it's the customer that wants proof.
Somebody somewhere wants to cover themselves, may an employee has claimed they've had a shock.
Maybe another contractor is claiming the faulty socket has damaged their equipment.

As an employee it doesn't matter if it seems pointless.

However the joke in the whole thing is that the certificate is going to be signed by a trainee, so it's worthless.
 
...I get a phone call, ten minutes after I've left the property, from my boss telling me I need to put in a minor works certificate, as I removed the front screws?! I cleared with him that I didn't adjust any terminals, only removed the front screws. Still said we had to fill in the minor works.

Am I right, or has he gone nuts?
I think the clue is in the question... "...my boss..." I'd just do as I was asked. If you feel that strongly about it, maybe look for another boss ?

A mate of mine used to work for a large hospital maintenance company... he was scolded once for tightening a loose plate screw ! He thought he was doing a good job... but was told that he had to first log the fault, then a job number would be issued, then he could tighten it !
 

darkwood

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If your boss is open minded to opinion and it won't get you into trouble, I would put his attention to this thread, my opinion is 'what work done' ? you merely inspected behind a socket, you may no alteration or replacements that may warrant a minor works.

Looking at other replies, it may be the case that the customer has asked for a paper trail here, maybe just ask the boss why a minor works was needed.
 
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