Gobsmacked. Need opinions

[telectrix]

Quite often bosses are not experienced in the field in which they manage, seen it numerous times they are fresh uni grads in some unrelated subject.

Your relationship should be about cooperating and understanding. Often managers are crap at explaining why they want something. Sometimes they are unaware and need educating.

If you approach them with confidence in a cooperative manner you may find they change their minds or they may give you the background that explains their decision.

Many times I've challenged bosses and been thanked for it, it's a tricky one as you don't want them to feel like you are trying to undermine them, rather help them.

I've always found if you go in with a better, cheaper, easier solution then you will become a more valued employee.

If you go in just saying it can't be done, isn't needed or that your manager is wrong then expect push back.

Don't ever challenge a boss in front of others unless invited to do so, that never ends well.

A good boss is interested in making your life as easy as possible, this way you get more done.

A bad boss is about using their position to salve some personal insecurities, these are almost impossible to please so best not to try, keep your head down and nose clean and stay off their radar.

Managing managers is a valuable skill to develope, that doesn't mean playing them rather understanding their needs and trying to fulfil them.

informative post but do we really need essays? Lol.

 

[James]

informative post but do we really need essays? Lol.

I thought that was a really good piece of advice considering the OP is a trainee.

 

[telectrix]

I thought that was a really good piece of advice considering the OP is a trainee.

it was but a bit of a read, nevertheless.

 

[GBDamo]

it was but a bit of a read, nevertheless.

I'll try to include more pictures for the intellectually challenged in future, sorry.

 

[GBDamo]

informative post but do we really need essays? Lol.

That was the abridged version, edited for brevity.

 

[Rpa07]

That was the abridged version, edited for brevity.

What’s Brevity?
Is that ‘Britain’s exit from the love of mcvities’?
I adore digestives so I vote REMAIN!

 

[Wilko]

What’s Brevity?
Is that ‘Britain’s exit from the love of mcvities’?
I adore digestives so I vote REMAIN!

Now you’ve done it -
McVitage - the number of McVities that can be consumed in one sitting

 

[Pete999]

Now you’ve done it -
McVitage - the number of McVities that can be consumed in one sitting

A packet

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

They may need a MWC for insurance purposes.

 

[Pete999]

A packet

Big mug of Tea or Coffee packet of Digestives, big chair no worries, close to a Lav I may add.

 

[Baddegg]

Does it need notifying? Nope but his company.....his rules mate

 

[DPG]

Does it need notifying? Nope but his company.....his rules mate

Filling a cert in is not the same as notifying though.

 

[Tony Reidy]

TITLE SHOULD BE GOBSMACKED... (Sorted that for you re' -'Darkwood')

Hi all, been a while since I posted.

I went to a job today and removed a socket for inspection. All I done was removed the socket screws, the terminations were not altered at all, literally just took the front screws out so I could the wiring.

I get a phone call, ten minutes after I've left the property, from my boss telling me I need to put in a minor works certificate, as I removed the front screws?! I cleared with him that I didn't adjust any terminals, only removed the front screws. Still said we had to fill in the minor works.

Am I right, or has he gone nuts?[/QUOTE personally if I have not altered a circuit I'm not putting my name on it

 

[Tony Reidy]

TITLE SHOULD BE GOBSMACKED... (Sorted that for you re' -'Darkwood')

Hi all, been a while since I posted.

I went to a job today and removed a socket for inspection. All I done was removed the socket screws, the terminations were not altered at all, literally just took the front screws out so I could the wiring.

I get a phone call, ten minutes after I've left the property, from my boss telling me I need to put in a minor works certificate, as I removed the front screws?! I cleared with him that I didn't adjust any terminals, only removed the front screws. Still said we had to fill in the minor works.

Am I right, or has he gone nuts?[/QUOTE personally if I have not altered a circuit I'm not putting my name on it

 

[DPG]

You having trouble Tony?

 

[Tony Reidy]

Are you a qualified supervisor or is your boss

 

[Markyd]

its a wonder he didnt completely panick and get you to fit an SPD

 

[l4urence]

Times have changed - maintenance contracts need evidence of work. It’s the way of the financial world now. Even the hospital example was good, to justify what was needed and done. To keep the contract another year evidence of work done is needed. It’s a shame. I would do the cert.

 

[Pete999]

Jobsworth rule OK, but in reality if the Bosses want paperwork, and you want to keep your job, why complain , just do it for the boys, you know it's the right thing to do, don't you? You will still pick up yer bunce at the end of the month so why rock the boat, just think of yer bank balance, after all you wont be breaking any rules or regulations, might be worthless, but if that's what they want, just do it, you know it makes sense.

 

[Santa]

A mate of mine used to work for a large hospital maintenance company... he was scolded once for tightening a loose plate screw ! He thought he was doing a good job... but was told that he had to first log the fault, then a job number would be issued, then he could tighten it !

I used to work for the NHS. A fluorescent tube in my office started to flicker so I called maintenance. Later that day a guy came round and had a look - that is he switched it on and confirmed that it was flickering. The next morning someone else delivered a new tube - that is he left it propped up against a filing cabinet, still in its box. Later on, another guy came with a ladder and replaced the tube - Let there be light... The next day the original guy came by and checked that the tube was working okay - he switched it off an on.

And people wonder why the NHS is short of money...