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Until builders/tradesmen realise the only answer is to give the thieves a good kicking when they are caught this will never end, the thieves know they is absolutely no downside for them, its a win win for them even if the police do catch them. Drag them onto the job and lump hammer their hands, its the only way.
If you have a hammer left
 

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Yes lowering yourself to their level and committing assault is an excellent soloution.
I'm sure we'd all do really well at paying a mortgage and supporting a family from prison.
Plus of course having a criminal record looks notoriously good on a CV.
So what are you saying happens about it then. Its a proven fact that the police and courts will do absolutely nothing about it, van manufacturers will do nothing about it, a modern van is as easy to break into as a 1960's commer van. What you seem to be saying is its just tough, scum can quite happily take my stuff whenever they feel like it and when they do I need to buy more for them to take the next week.
I don't get your ideology, why would I go out to work to buy other people tools? Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, the only thing that will work is to try something else, break their fingers.
 

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Have you ever done that?

It’s easy to say online what you “would” do if you were unfortunate enough to have your van broken into.

Different story story faced with a desperate criminal… one who has already broken the law, and won’t think twice about doing it again.

You square up to one of them, armed with your lump hammer… and I can bet which one of you is coming off worse.

Even if you get a swing in… they know the system inside out, and you end up with the criminal record for assault….. whatever the circumstances leading up to it.


You haven’t suggested how you would find out who, exactly, had stolen the tools in the first place.
 

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I feel for Delroy to have all your tools cleared out bloody scum bags, but who on earth leaves tools in a van overnight.
I know you should be able to but we have to be realistic in the world we live in and its the wild west out there.
 

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So what are you saying happens about it then. Its a proven fact that the police and courts will do absolutely nothing about it, van manufacturers will do nothing about it, a modern van is as easy to break into as a 1960's commer van. What you seem to be saying is its just tough, scum can quite happily take my stuff whenever they feel like it and when they do I need to buy more for them to take the next week.
I don't get your ideology, why would I go out to work to buy other people tools? Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, the only thing that will work is to try something else, break their fingers.
I can %100 that someone who has basically held a maybe 16yr old against their will and then smashed their hands in with a lump hammer isn’t going to be walking out of a court and is most likely going to get a very long time in prison.
And maybe leaving your family to look after themselves.
The money you would lose plus any compensation would far outweigh the loss of some tools.
How would you react if that happened to your little brother.
 

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So what are you saying happens about it then.
What needs to happen is far tougher laws and punishment for offenders. Better security, better security marking of tools and equipment.
Tools should be designed with some kind of security measures in them. Something like an easily removable, unique, 'key' that renders the tool useless when it is removed.

Its a proven fact that the police and courts will do absolutely nothing about it,
I find it hard to believe that this is a proven fact, can you provide proof?
van manufacturers will do nothing about it, a modern van is as easy to break into as a 1960's commer van.
Yes and they should be made to do something about it through legislation.
What you seem to be saying is its just tough, scum can quite happily take my stuff whenever they feel like it and when they do I need to buy more for them to take the next week.
Then I think you need to read my post again as I have said nothing of the the sort. What I was saying is that we should not lower ourselves to the level of the criminals.
I'm saying that getting yourself convicted of assault is not going to help your cause at all and is going to harm you far more than it harms the person you attack.
I don't get your ideology, why would I go out to work to buy other people tools?
That's not my ideology and I haven't said anything of the sort.
 

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