help 3 phase

[Chris Burt]

hi,
i have a garage iam renting but i only have 1 double socket and need more, i also have 2 car lifts that need a 3 phase supply,ihave a grinder with a 4pole red plugwith nowhere to plug it in, now the big problemis that thelandlord has said i can get the socket circut re done to incorpuate more sockets but he has saidwe are not allowed to replace the dist board and it is full so my question is.... can iget a second board put in that can run from the first???

thanks in advance

 

[markc123]

How could you possibly put a second dist board in if the original is full...this would mean taking things off their own individual circuits and doubling them up with others. I am not willing to advise on this because i haven't seen the DB...it could be possible to free a way up by doubling other circuits...load depending. Get a qualified electrician to take a look at this.

However, running another DB from your original will not solve your 3phase problem. You need a form of phase conversion. You really need to get a sparks too take a look at this buddy, it's not something anyone on here can sucessfully help with - too many if's and but's for a proper helping hand online.

 

[Mark.W]

How could you possibly put a second dist board in if the original is full.../QUOTE]

You can get another DB in by splitting the tails!

 

[markc123]

Yes, but i doubt he'd be willing to fund that if he won't even upgrade too a bigger board.

Also begs the question why the OP asked about a second board if he wont upgrade the first but still.

 

[Mark.W]

Maybe it's because if he puts the 2nd DB in, then he has to pay for it, not the landlord...I don't know!

 

[BrianDB9]

Bet if i take my van to this garage I won't be told how to fix it myself ?

 

[Knobhead]

 

[trev]

Chris the best advice has to be for you to consult a sparky local to you, you might be thinking it's just a couple of wires but there's a lot more to it than that mate especially if you're moving cars around in there and potentially spilling petrol

 

[Darkwood]

I think the OP may be lacking an understanding of the depth of this, its a rented garage with existing power but no 3ph points... id be inclined to think its only got 1ph supply???

 

[trev]

I agree DW. Whereabouts are you OP? One of us might be near you and could give you a proper idea of how much it would cost to do this safely

 

[Chris Burt]

i have had a sparks in and he said he was going to run it from the existing board or from the isolater witch is local to the meter, would it just be easier to swap the dist board out? i might just have to hound the landlord

 

[steve-aka-g]

be carefull of overloading the D.B. if it is already full!!

 

[trev]

So a spark came out and told you how a job would be done but then you come on here asking if and how what this "spark" has "told you"
I'm not having a pop at you mate but do you see what I'm getting at?

 

[micknew]

Surely he would't pick our brains then do a DIY job.

 

[Darkwood]

TBH i dont understand why the landlord wont let you get an electrician in to fit a larger board ... im on the assumption you are willing to carry the costs of this yourself as its your requirements thus the landlord isnt subject to paying for the work.. if you explain you will have the qualified electrician provide you with the relevant Cert for the job then he may see the light realising you are improving the electrical layout.... Note here that in changing it you dont have any claim on the fuseboard if say you terminated your tenancy .... its a cost you will have to shoulder and you could always put it through as business costs.