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I've done around 6-7 jobs for a company who are/was, a main contractor for a well know nationwide bathroom installation company,

my problem is the jobs I've done & tested, I've not been paid for (and looks like I'm not going to be ) as the company tells me they have lost there contract for (nationwide company), and haven't been paid what there owed as there is still certification outstanding (electrical installation certificates) that I'm not willing to hand over until paid,

now I've been in contact with nationwide installation companies (installation manager) for my area, he knows all about this problem alls I'm getting from him is "ill send another electrician to certify the works", he don't seem interested at all. and wants me to sort it out with company I've done the works for,

now correct me if I'm wrong but can he just send someone round to issue cert

have i any options available to me. they owe me 7-8k now if they just fold company I'm screwed and don't expect to receive a penny,

I'm thinking send letter to customers explaining situation about them wanting to sing my work off as theres a issue between the nationwide company and the company I've done the works for.


any advice would be great many thanks,
 
3rd party certification isn't allowed by any of the r£gulatory bodies but that won't stop them mate. Best get a lawyer on the job pdq.
 
3rd party certification isn't allowed by any of the r£gulatory bodies but that won't stop them mate. Best get a lawyer on the job pdq.

my idea was to hold certificates from company I've worked for, so inturn it stops them getting paid. so they would have to come back to me pay me to release there money,

so if i can some how stop someone else signing them off i could have a fighting chance to receive payment
 
What trev says is best.

But I'm a little lost...You've withheld certs, company not been paid for jobs as said certs aren't there, and you expect paid from them?
 
What trev says is best.

But I'm a little lost...You've withheld certs, company not been paid for jobs as said certs aren't there, and you expect paid from them?

sorry should of explained a bit better i have issued two of the certificates and not been paid on them (fed a load of bull about there jobs ect not finished) I'm assuming they have been paid on these but not paid me, i was working on 25 days from invoice so by time i was due payment (what didn't come) id completed more jobs for them therefore I'm holding onto certs as I've not been paid even for the two I've issued.
 
You need legal help, not a load of random suggestions from here.

Stop wasting your time here and start getting your evidence together.

cheers tony,

when you say evidence together what sort of evidence would you suggest, I've not been in this position before, i did try a solicitor they told me it wasn't something they deal with would citizens advice be a good start to find someone to help
 
Small claims court mate get a CCJ and take it from there, I have to say though you were charged with doing the work, which you haven't completed (not issued any certs) from what I can tell.
 
cheers tony,

when you say evidence together what sort of evidence would you suggest, I've not been in this position before, i did try a solicitor they told me it wasn't something they deal with would citizens advice be a good start to find someone to help

The written contract between you and the company you where working for would be a good start.
 
cheers tony,

when you say evidence together what sort of evidence would you suggest, I've not been in this position before, i did try a solicitor they told me it wasn't something they deal with would citizens advice be a good start to find someone to help
Contract as Sintra said, orders, invoices. The more info you can get the better off you'll be. That other solicitor can't have been up to much, they all have debt recovery departments. It's bread and butter work for them
 
Agree with Tony, get evidence together and get some legal advice, it is lot more than a few quid at stake. Also, even if you get a CCJ, it is no guarantee at all you will get any money. Not sure if withholding certificates will help though as they can argue the reason you have not been paid is that you have not fulfilled your obligations.
 
It’s a contractual matter, all CAB will do is tell you to get a solicitor that deals in such things. The local conveyancing solicitor will be useless and won’t take it on.
 
When were the invoices issues? How have you chase up payments? by phone? by email? by letter?

If you "go legal" YOU have to demonstrate that you have sent reminders, and not after 2 days! then your final "reminder" needs to include the following :

"Dear xxxxxxxx,

RE: Final demand for Invoice No. xxxxxxx

This invoice remains unpaid. I have emailed/sent a number of reminders requesting payment.

I attach my original invoice to this letter and wish to inform you, that if the invoice is not settled in full by xx xxxxx 2015, I intend to refer this matter to the Small Claims Court without further reference to you.

Please be aware that all costs associated with such action are added to your outstanding bill and will make the final payment higher.

Yours sincerely,
 
Talk to a proper lawyer first thing in the morning about applying for an emergeny garnishee order, but you'll need a hefty amount of luck!!
 
Iirc you can only garnish once and if the pot is empty then you're screwed but a lawyer is your best bet. Not a bunch of sparkies
 
Iirc you can only garnish once and if the pot is empty then you're screwed but a lawyer is your best bet. Not a bunch of sparkies

Your contract is with the company you carried out the work for, not the bathroom company. Legally it doesn't matter a jot if the company you are working/contracted too, has been paid or not, that's nothing to do with you!! It's a sad state of affairs if the main contractor you are working for, is relying on a payments from a single contract to stay in business....

As others say, go down the legal road to get things sorted...
 
There is no such thing as 'a small claims court'.
There is the fast-track route, where small amounts are usually assigned, but, it is up to the Local Court to assign which route any Claim should take.
For £7-8000, then it will be unlikely to take the 'Fast-track', so it will probably go to the main court, which will mean more costs.

As stated above, you cannot just 'take it to court'.
There is a procedure involved before you apply for Court proceedings. If you don't follow the proceedings, your Court Claim will be thrown out, and you'll have to start again.

For £7/8000, then you really should take note of the good advice earlier, and see someone who specialises in collecting/enforcing debts via the Court. This does not always mean a Solicitor - you dont need Legal Advice if the Claim is very straightforward, but, you do need someone who knows how the system works, and knows how to make the Claim properly.

Also, your Claim is against the person who ordered the work from you, so if you are subbing for a building Company, then it is the Building Company who owe you, not the householder who is having the work done. You'll also be able to claim interest if the debt is overdue.

Get some decent advice.
 
Good advice from folks on here about getting guidance from the appropriate sources. You may also find that the staff at your local court will chat to you about court processes. Your local CAB is a good place to start and they may also suggest other professionals to help you.

Feel for you mate, it's just too easy for companies to screw the guy at the bottom of the chain; hope you recover what you're due.
 

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