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Oliver Jones

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I have just moved into a new house and need to wire in a new light I bought from B&Q. The fitting on the ceiling upstairs looks like the attached image. Am I right in thinking I just need to insert the wires into this existing fitting on the right and left hand side then wire the earth wire from the fitting in the image to the new light?

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Best advice is get a sparky in mate, there's more to doing this correctly and safely than bunging a few wires in
 
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Oliver Jones

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OK thanks I will do
 
Whereabouts are you Oliver? One of our friendly helpful experts is bound to be near you and able to help
 
Well that's me out of the question:)
 
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Guest123

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We do have quite a few members in the Leeds area.
 
shouldnt there be 2 cables in the loop in?
 
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sedgy34

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Not if the feed is at the switch don't you bother yourself to help him out lol
 
nope, I understand the implications of assisting so I wont. but then wouldnt you just have the S/L & N @ the c/r. it does nothing to have the one permanent in their on its own no?
 

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agreee, something not quite right there.
 
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sedgy34

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nope, I understand the implications of assisting so I wont. but then wouldnt you just have the S/L & N @ the c/r. it does nothing to have the one permanent in their on its own no?

The pic tells me feed is at the switch there is a single switch live coming from switch and the neutral is looped round the ceiling roses and they didn't have any single neutral so that's why the loop is doing nothing. Just a guess that is
 
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StuSpiers

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I would assume borrowed live/neutral on end of line
 
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mickys86

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I reckon there's a jb somewhere...... Can of worms, tin hat! :)
 
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nathandance1996

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does the existing rose fit inside the new fitting? if so couldn't you just keep that but use the switched live, neutral and earth for the new fitting?
 
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Dave 85

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I have just moved into a new house and need to wire in a new light I bought from B&Q. The fitting on the ceiling upstairs looks like the attached image. Am I right in thinking I just need to insert the wires into this existing fitting on the right and left hand side then wire the earth wire from the fitting in the image to the new light?

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Yes you are right in thinking that. You may have to remove the existing pendant to get the bracket on the ceiling. Turn the circuit off at the fuse board, the middle red will be live even with the light switch off.
 
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Nocker

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Couldnt this just be the last lighting point?
 
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nathandance1996

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that cable looks very old, it could have snapped as it could have been brittle, did the old light work as it was? if so ignore the center wire. are you able to pull the cable out a bit more or check the cable in the ceiling?
 
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mickys86

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Just ignore it, great idea. Ignorance is bliss
 
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nathandance1996

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Just ignore it, great idea. Ignorance is bliss
I'm only suggesting that if the fitting worked as is, although given the picture that seems highly unlikely.
It just looks like the feed to to the switch has snapped off, the cable will probably have to be looked at above the ceiling then extended if necessary.
 
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nathandance1996

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Just ignore it, great idea. Ignorance is bliss
although unlikely, could the fitting have the loop in a junction box, but with a permanent live feed (single core) for a ceiling fan that somebody never got round to actually putting up.

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only a theory for the unusual wiring.
 
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axel132132

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Im 50 min away... Ill fit it for you for £25 + 45p / mile =] 51Miles = 22.95 total £47.95 =]
 

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Im 50 min away... Ill fit it for you for £25 + 45p / mile =] 51Miles = 22.95 total £47.95 =]
cheap. from the pic posted, i'd not be happy leaving without checking and testing at least that circuit and competing a MWC. £60 + travel. that 51 miles is going to take you the best part of 2 hours, so it's at least a 3 hour call out.
 
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