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I am not the owner, I am 16 and live in my Mum's house.


The wiring hasn't been replaced since the 60's by the looks of things and I am worried by several things:

numerous switches that do nothing, numerous fuses that do nothing, insulation that is brittle, "scruit" (twist on) connectors in lights,sockets under drainpipes, multiple fuseboxes with ludicrously overrated fuses (ring main on 45a) as well as arcing switches, missing earth sleeving, poor earthing and an uncovered meter surrounded by flammable material.

P030812_18.41_[02].jpgP030812_18.41.jpg< switch inside ceiling, totally inaccessible.
P030812_18.34.jpgP030812_18.37_[01].jpgP030812_18.35_[01].jpg< ancient fusebox mess.
P030812_18.42.jpg< socket with drain pipe directed towards it
P030812_18.55.jpg< spider webs inside this light fitting, no earth sleeve.
P030812_18.50_[01].jpgP030812_18.50.jpg<typical old fittings
 
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really need a site visit to determine the condition of it. sure if you post your area, some on here will be close to you, have a quick look.
 
That switch is ridiculous but what does it do?
The CUs obviously don't comply with new regs but may still be good for continued service
As long as everything is watertight that's not too bad
Get the vacuum cleaner out to remove the webs
Old fittings, what can I say?
If nothing has been done since the 60s then it may be coming to the end of it's useful life but only a full inspection and test will tell you that mate. Shift the flammable material to be on the safe side
 
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Quite switched on for a 16 year old

are you an apprentice training?
 
No mate it isn't, at least I don't think it is having had PM conversations with the OP
 
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Quite switched on for a 16 year old

are you an apprentice training?
no, I am aiming to do an Engineering diploma (providing exams results 5 c and above). at the moment I can't decide between mechanical and electrical engineering as a career.
 
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That switch is ridiculous but what does it do?
The CUs obviously don't comply with new regs but may still be good for continued service
As long as everything is watertight that's not too bad
Get the vacuum cleaner out to remove the webs
Old fittings, what can I say?
If nothing has been done since the 60s then it may be coming to the end of it's useful life but only a full inspection and test will tell you that mate. Shift the flammable material to be on the safe side
the ceiling was actually installed after the switch, hence the ridiculous location, just controls a PIR outdoor light (why you'd need to I don't know).
 

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As already mentioned, could just do with some TLC or the main insulation of the cables could be as you say going brittle, which means attempts to update the faceplates or even repair broken ones could result in damaging the cables even more.

Didn't see any RCD on the property, that would help with safety providing there are no faults. Also remove all stuff from around the electric box, service head etc that could catch fire.

There appears to be a separate cct for heating of some type i assume (the single way wylex i think)

Worth spending a little to determine how good / bad it is before deciding to spend thousands on a re-wire as best case is that the wiring will give another 5 years and you update the CU to latest type giving a much safer install, oh and get some smoke detectors in there as well
 
It's amazing how an electric meter can double-up as a handy picture shelf. :)

Seriously tho Nathan, only a proper inspection by a qualified electrician will tell you whether the installation is coming to the end of its useful life. Sometimes a few hours of remedial work is all that's needed.
 
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As already mentioned, could just do with some TLC or the main insulation of the cables could be as you say going brittle, which means attempts to update the faceplates or even repair broken ones could result in damaging the cables even more.

Didn't see any RCD on the property, that would help with safety providing there are no faults. Also remove all stuff from around the electric box, service head etc that could catch fire.

There appears to be a separate cct for heating of some type i assume (the single way wylex i think)

Worth spending a little to determine how good / bad it is before deciding to spend thousands on a re-wire as best case is that the wiring will give another 5 years and you update the CU to latest type giving a much safer install, oh and get some smoke detectors in there as well
what if I where to temporarily use sleeving to prevent split insulation in the boxes and lights causing problems? there is the problem that temporary fixes often become permanent.
 

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as a quick fix, you might get away with it, but is it worth the risk? would you use duct tape to stick a broken brake caliper together on your car.van?
 
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