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I have just finished fixing a job that another electrician first started back late last year. Basically in a shortened version: A customer asked a British Gas Sub-contracted electrician to price for a Consumer Upgrade, which he did (and I have a copy of the estimate). He then came with his 'step daughter in-law' to do the works which also involved adding 4no Double Sockets, 1no Single Socket and a S.F Connection unit for Kitchen Lights. It then came to the end of the day when he turned round and said there is a fault on the ring main, I've wired it up so it won't trip and I'll come back to sort it out. He then got paid and has since, never been back! He ignores calls from the customer and so forth. I then got asked to go and have a look as they have had enough and want it sorted. I went as I was recommended to them by a previous customer. I found and rectified the fault as best as I can. It is not ideal but is now safe and protected by the RCD! I have urged them to have a full rewire at the soonest possible time. I also upgraded the bonding to the main gas and water pipes as they weren't up to scratch. I have logged my part with the BRCS and have provided a certificate where I have stated what I have done and what needs doing.

This really annoys me as I seem to be coming across this more and more of late and would like to know where to go if we wanted to log a complaint? I've tried the NIC and Chack a trade but they aren't on either.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Joe
 
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If he has done an un notified CU change then you could try LABC but it's unlikely that they'll do anything mate
 
Daft question was he registered with any one
 
It's wrong though there should be some governing body some were who takes these killers to task
 
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Spazz

Check the Competent Persons Register | Home database to see if they are on there.
If they are then go to the provider they registered with
If they are not go to LABC and Trading Standards and let them deal with it - they might not do anything - apart from tell the home owner to have it tested so it can be signed off.

I have come across this a few times with both registered and unregistered electricians - not much gets done about it down here mind
 
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Dave 85

Have you tried 999?
 
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Check the Competent Persons Register | Home database to see if they are on there.
If they are then go to the provider they registered with
If they are not go to LABC and Trading Standards and let them deal with it - they might not do anything - apart from tell the home owner to have it tested so it can be signed off.


I have come across this a few times with both registered and unregistered electricians - not much gets done about it down here mind
They don't appear to be on the register mate but thanks for the link, I'll keep hold of that one!


Daft question was he registered with any one
They couldn't say but his estimate is just plain A4! They're not with the NIC though as I checked.

you could be happy your fixing his work ....
I would be if I could be sure that would be the end of the problems but this appears to be a house of horrors anyway :(

Or Trading Standards, either or :)
That's what I keep thinking mate

It's wrong though there should be some governing body some were who takes these killers to task
Not well enough policed unfortunately. I'm amazed at what some people deem ok. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I'd done half the stuff I come across!!
 
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can't you go to British Gas as they subbed it out?
Done as a different job mate. It seems as though he sub'ed to BG for their heating wiring. They will sort it out for a large fee apparently!
 
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Spazz

Just to let you know the competent person is a database of all the providers - NIC, NAPIT, ECA, BSI, etc, etc, etc
Everyone who is registered will be on that database

It dont surprise me that this person is not an electrician (not registered)

Call TS and LABC to let them know that this guy is around (they might already know)

They will deal with him at their own pace - the quote that he gave will be enough evidence to say he is doing work - he made a big mistake there - they never put their name to anything not even a quote!

You have to prove he did the work so a certificate, invoice, sticker on CU with his name on it, etc but a quote is not enough


Good luck
 
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Just to let you know the competent person is a database of all the providers - NIC, NAPIT, ECA, BSI, etc, etc, etc
Everyone who is registered will be on that database

It dont surprise me that this person is not an electrician (not registered)

Call TS and LABC to let them know that this guy is around (they might already know)

They will deal with him at their own pace - the quote that he gave will be enough evidence to say he is doing work - he made a big mistake there - they never put their name to anything not even a quote!

You have to prove he did the work so a certificate, invoice, sticker on CU with his name on it, etc but a quote is not enough


Good luck
The only sticker on the board was the rcd instructions! I put the two colour warning sticker on today and labelled the board up for the customer. The customer did try calling them today while I was there and they answered. As soon as the customer mentioned I was there he couldn't get off the phone quick enough!! Now won't answer again, now there's a surprise!

I'll start with the two bodies you mention mate, cheers.
 
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Dave 85

He's done what he quoted them for (put a new board on). The work hes actually done is not necessarily bad and he's left the house safer than he found it.
Ok so he's not done it exactly how its supposed to be done and its not something I'd do but I also wouldnt get upset about someone else doing this and go to great lengths to grass them up. If trading standards were to actually take action against this guy just because one of his competetors didn't agree with his methods I'd be very surprised.

Calling him a killer is a little dramatic is it not?
 
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Guest55

Calling him a killer is a little dramatic is it not?
No its not , anyone practicing electrical work whilst not in a scam is an axe murderer.
 
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steveberry11

Although I agree that there should be some governing body with teeth to police the trade. I can't see it happening soon.


Now it gets controversial


Reading a lot of posts is this type of thing not encouraged by replying to the posts from DIYers. Winding them up and letting them go.

I look forward to a lively debate.
 
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Dave 85

Although I agree that there should be some governing body with teeth to police the trade. I can't see it happening soon.


Now it gets controversial


Reading a lot of posts is this type of thing not encouraged by replying to the posts from DIYers. Winding them up and letting them go.

I look forward to a lively debate.
What's this got to do with DIYers?
 
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steveberry11

What's this got to do with DIYers?
Bad electricians one step up from DIYers only just
 
Ok my twopennorth. Bad electrics and electricians have been with us since electricity was installed everywhere, can we do anything about that? In a word, no all we can do is do our jobs as best we can and try to encourage customers to educate themselves about A) The dangers inherent and B) What to expect from someone purporting to be an electrician because no one else is going to do it.
Should the CPS operators/LABC/trading standards be taking action against the cowboys? Hell yes but they either don't or can't for whatever reason, there's nothing we can do about it other than complain on sites like this because no one is listening guys. The scam operators have the ear of the government and they're being told that everything is hunky dory.
As I said, all we can do is to do our jobs to the best of our abilities
 
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Deleted member 9648

Quite frankly it's up to the aggrieved party to take action if they think thay have had unsatisfactory work....the aggrieved party being the person who authorised the original work....NOT the electrician called in to rectify it.
We are electricians,not the police....what others get up to is not our lookout.
 
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Swicade

Send out the Bat symbol....seems to be about as much use as governing bodies are
 
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jase

I'm not sure if this is the right section??

I have just finished fixing a job that another electrician first started back late last year. Basically in a shortened version: A customer asked a British Gas Sub-contracted electrician to price for a Consumer Upgrade, which he did (and I have a copy of the estimate). He then came with his 'step daughter in-law' to do the works which also involved adding 4no Double Sockets, 1no Single Socket and a S.F Connection unit for Kitchen Lights. It then came to the end of the day when he turned round and said there is a fault on the ring main, I've wired it up so it won't trip and I'll come back to sort it out. He then got paid and has since, never been back! He ignores calls from the customer and so forth. I then got asked to go and have a look as they have had enough and want it sorted. I went as I was recommended to them by a previous customer. I found and rectified the fault as best as I can. It is not ideal but is now safe and protected by the RCD! I have urged them to have a full rewire at the soonest possible time. I also upgraded the bonding to the main gas and water pipes as they weren't up to scratch. I have logged my part with the BRCS and have provided a certificate where I have stated what I have done and what needs doing.

This really annoys me as I seem to be coming across this more and more of late and would like to know where to go if we wanted to log a complaint? I've tried the NIC and Chack a trade but they aren't on either.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Joe
So what was the fault then? And what do you mean you rectified it best you can although not ideal? Surely you sorted it or didn't?
Howcome you urged them to have a FULL REWIRE as soo aas possible. Did you do a full EICR?
 
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