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Jen Jackson

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I bought an IKEA light pendant and confused about how to wire it. The light is controlled by 2 switches and I have old colour wiring. From the ceiling I have 3 cables coming out. One is a single red cable, the other 2 contain black, red and earth.
The switch I have to put these wires into only has a neutral and a live hole.
Should I group the neutral and live cables together?
Many thanks in advance!

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Flanders

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Did you take a photo of the old light when it was still connected , if not it will be difficult to help
 

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Hi Jen,

The first few replies will tell you (politely I hope) to get an electrician to do it, as that is the correct advice as there's a bit more too it than just 'grouping cables together'. Then however, someone who is too eager and maybe bored will explain how to do it without going into enough detail (as there is so much more to it than joining the correct wires together) and your light will work albeit in perhaps a dangerous fashion.

Good luck :)
 
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Jen Jackson

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I didn’t, because the rose was wired in a completely different way I didn’t think it would be needed, I’m regretting this now!
 
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Jen, I would suggest that you call a local electrician tomorrow and get them to do it. Obviously check their cost beforehand, but for this type of job I charge my basic callout charge which covers the first hour. I would guess it will cost around £50 to get an electrician out, but at least it will be done properly and safely.
 
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Jen Jackson

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Thanks for the advice everyone, just going to get an electrician if it isn’t that straight forward.
Thanks again!
 
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TonyMitchell

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Jen, also be VERY careful what you touch, as I assume you have no test equipment to prove dead. There is a situation commonly referred to as a "borrowed neutral" which in simplest terms means the wires you think are dead because you've switched the breaker off for say "upstairs lights" aren't all dead as a neutral is energised from another circuit. Call a sparks and be safe!
 

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I didn’t see any red bit come off. I think I’m just going to have suck up paying for an electrician and not buy from IKEA again!
I will admit that I'm not impressed with the quality of ikea light fittings, but regardless of the make of light fitting you would still be in the same position.

Good luck getting it sorted.
 

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I didn’t see any red bit come off. I think I’m just going to have suck up paying for an electrician and not buy from IKEA again!
You cant blame IKEA for not noting how it was wired before you disconnected all the wires, you'd be in the same boat wherever the light came from.
 

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wiring then uo is the easy bit.....getting that plastic cowling thing to stay flush to the ceiling!....that’s a skill in its own!
 

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Jen - Firstly you need to be able to understand a loop-in wiring system. this would solve all your problems. you cannot blame the ikea light!!! as any double insulated light fitting will have a connector like that one. this is an example of the sort of thing you have come across here:light.jpg
 

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That looks like an old style two way switching system. The single wire is the switch line. It was how things were done prior to 3C &E cables coming along. It’s done the same way as doing two way in singles.
I recommend getting a good (old) electrician who remembers it.
 

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Oh dear, should have marked the switch live before you disconnected all of them, without a decent voltage tester you are going to struggle
 

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I’d blame IKEA. Never understood why people travel miles to get to one of their stores.
 

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I’d blame IKEA. Never understood why people travel miles to get to one of their stores.
Just bought two of their wardrobes to link together along a 3m span of wall, took me a whole weekend to put the thing together. But was really impressed with the quality of the whole package, went together really well,looks great and solid as a rock.
 

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@Barnaby Stedman , be careful buddy, this may constitute "step by step" instructions, which the form disallows.
I assume that if a memebr of this forum gives 'step by step' technical advice to a person who is not competent then the forum owners might be held responsible for any problems that would occur if the non-competent person attempted the work and then suffered electrocution, injury and or damage to property as a result?
 
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I didn't think that existed anymore?
Oh yes.
Someone recently resurrected a thread from 2012 where I had given step by step instructions on how to work out which black wire is the switched live without testing equipment.
 

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