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I know that's a fact cus I made a right mess of our Kitchen before I had my Prostate Op.An old saying I will always remember "If you can p--- you can paint"
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I know that's a fact cus I made a right mess of our Kitchen before I had my Prostate Op.An old saying I will always remember "If you can p--- you can paint"
I'm not qualified or experienced enough to offer any sort of legal advice. My suggestion would be to speak to citizens advice and/or trading standards. From what you say the landlord's own contractor has looked at the job and condemned it. There might be some merit in getting in a qualified spark to do an independent report. The cost of this maybe recoverable if you did manage to win a court order. But it might be that you end up stumping up to rectify this at your own cost. Like I said I couldn't advise you on this.I do admit its my fault for hiring him but it was through referrals so i thought i could trust them also
Who could i go to about taking this to court or reporting him?
I know that's a fact cus I made a right mess of our Kitchen before I had my Prostate Op.An old saying I will always remember "If you can p--- you can paint"
Erm... don't bring the horse into it!did he tie his horse up outside
Whats with the long face?Erm... don't bring the horse into it!
An old saying I will always remember "If you can p--- you can paint"
Not correct. Your advice is not correct and mine is materially different in certain areas.Actually .....you've mostly written the same advice differently expecting a different outcome..
In your earlier post you reply state "..Contractually, and very begrudgingly, I'd offer him the opportunity to hire someone competent to do the work stating in the letter your belief he is not competent, attach your list of faults from your LLs assessor."His LLs electrician has disconnected the installation and condemned it, so it is not me advising the OP to claim the cowboy is incompetence the OP has received professional advice stating it as fact, hence why i suggested attaching the LLs assessment..
No I have not, I have given sound advice based on my training and experience as a Contracts Manager with legal training. This is materially different to yours in a number of areas.Actually you don't, you've mostly written the same advice differently expecting a different outcome..
Sadly you wont see a penny back from him...
Yes we will, as you have pre-judged the decision of the Court, and your comment has already caused the OP to doubt the wisdom of proceeding...in your opinion, we'll see though.
Yet you also state "......Contractually, and very begrudgingly...."In my opinion, without a written contract or other sound proof a contract has been entered into and between whom then there is precious little for MCOL to settle.
Firstly, please don't selectively quote what I have written to prove your point.I am sorry and I do not wish to seem argumentative but again I must take issue with some points in your response.
Not correct. Your advice is not correct and mine is materially different in certain areas.
In your earlier post you reply state "..Contractually, and very begrudgingly, I'd offer him the opportunity to hire someone competent to do the work stating in the letter your belief he is not competent, attach your list of faults from your LLs assessor."
I don't believe the landlord has ever stated in writing that the installer was incompetent, (and I would lay £1 to a penny that neither the landlord nor anyone inspecting that installation will state in writing that the installer was incompetent), yet you have told the OP to make that allegation. The competence of the installer is for now a matter for conjecture, until he has been demonstrably proven to be incompetent by a person whose judgement would be acceptable to a Court. However what should not be pursued are allegations of competence. The facts of the quality of the work speak for themselves. Let others form their own judgements as to whether poor installation quality also demonstrates incompetence.
No I have not, I have given sound advice based on my training and experience as a Contracts Manager with legal training. This is materially different to yours in a number of areas.
Yes we will, as you have pre-judged the decision of the Court, and your comment has already caused the OP to doubt the wisdom of proceeding
Yet you also state "......Contractually, and very begrudgingly...."
Contracts do not have to be in writing to be legally enforceable, with one important exception: a contract for the sale (or other disposition) of land or property must be in writing and contain all the terms agreed, otherwise it is not enforceable. How often do YOU insist on a proper written and signed Contract before undertaking work ?
In my opinion, without a written contract or other sound proof a contract has been entered into and between whom then there is precious little for MCOL to settle.
GB Damo
I note your response and the underlying tone, and the fact you have clearly been busy Googling, albeit extracting and quoting a whole series of points which are completely irrelevant to the matter in hand, and only contribute to muddying the water.
I have passed comment in this thread based on my work experience as a former Contract Manager, with legal training in that area, and with experience of managing major Contracts, and contractual disputes, including those which resulted in Court Actions. I also have experience of recoveries through the small claims Court and on-line claims process.
You state your occupation to be a domestic installer in your profile, so I take this to be your area of expertise. Whilst you may have some knowledge/experience of Contract Law,
you gave some very poor advice in an earlier post that, in my opinion, would have damaged the OPs chances of recovery and indeed would potentially have left them exposed to a claim for defamation. I find that element very telling in respect of your exposure to legal claims work.
Contractually, and very begrudgingly, I'd offer him the opportunity to hire someone competent to do the work stating in the letter your belief he is not competent, attach your list of faults from your LLs assessor."[\quote]
To break it down;-
The OP has to allow the installer the opportunity to make good, without doing so he cannot bring a case before MCOL.
The OP is also contractually obliged by his Tenancy Agreement to his landlord to make sure the works are done to the Landlord or his agents standard.
As the assessment of the works required is already in writing it should be appended to the letter to the initial installer.
The "your" in bold above I think is the contentious bit and should be "your Landlords"
In the circumstances I cannot see how any continuing debate with you will add value, and for the benefit of all I suggest we consider the exchange between us closed.
Fair play, have a goob bank holiday weekend.
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