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wade88

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Some of you may have seen me scrabbling for advice last week in regards to a re-wire i was asked to quote for.

Well i got the job! Very pleased. Am now however bricking it.

Start work this friday. If you dont hear from me by the end of next week...fear the worst. :svengo:

25 sockets, 23 downlights, 9 pendants, 6 tv points, 3 fire alarms, 1 cooker, New board tails and bonding, pretty excited.

Wish me luck!

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Oh and a massive thanks to everyone who helped me to get this job quoted for and all the right questions answered, genuinely couldnt have done it without your input.

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Congratulations!

There's no sign of grey hair on the photo yet, so can't be all bad :D ... Can we have an after photo as well ;)
 
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Dare we ask (you don't have to answer) what price you went in with?
 
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No i dont mind at all Murdoch, my final quote was £4590 inc mateirlas which have come to around £1000 so far.

My break down was pretty simple, £40 a point, £400 for 12 way CU and bonding etc, £250 for cooker and there were a few other bits but i dont have my estimate in front of me. She said it was a vast improvement on previous quotes and im happy with my walk away profit to be honest, so i guess im happy. Customer is getting a good price and is happy and i can buy my kid some nice xmas presents, so everyones a winner.

Ha oh i have a few grey hairs topquark dont worry about that! thats an old photo from when i was at university and nothing else to worry about but getting the round of beers in, life is a little different these days! no doubt after this next week or so i shall be sporting the silver fox look.
 
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Good man, if you mates can't help you I'm not far away!!

LOL
 
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Well done mate. Just wish we could get thoses prices around this way lol.
 

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Congratulations!

Feels good, doesn't it? Now then, make us all proud and report back with a job well done!
 

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Wahey, time to panic loads, oh sorry I meant: no problems, go for it.

Well done on getting the job, remember all the advice and I wish you the best of luck with it.

You must report back!!
 
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well done mate good luck have fun :hurray:
 
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I dont understand why your bricking it:confused5:?

Its a domestic rewire, quite a simple enough task, Price is massive too and she said that was the cheapest?

Could get it done for half that price in the north east, i might move down south or maybe even commute i could make a killing by shamming these high prices

How long have you planned to do the job?
 
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Well done. Enjoy going to work !!!!!!!
 

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I dont understand why your bricking it:confused5:?

Its a domestic rewire, quite a simple enough task, Price is massive too and she said that was the cheapest?

Could get it done for half that price in the north east, i might move down south or maybe even commute i could make a killing by shamming these high prices

How long have you planned to do the job?
I think it's a bit harsh trying to take a pop at the lad when we're all congratulating him - you had a first rewire one time in your life and I bet you had reservations too.

As for prices of rewires, no-one is being ripped off by sham rates down south - people tend to forget it costs us a heck of a lot more to live down here than up north. And there's nowt wrong with a bit o profit. Or did you plan to work for free?
 
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I predict ten pages of 'I can do it cheaper than you', now! :snore:
 

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And so could have Ben if he'd only wanted to charge 1p per hour plus materials at cost from some dubious ebay seller.

'Value' is all reflective on what people are prepared to pay for something, no more, no less, and I would hazard a guess that the client would have dismissed a quote for £1500 as having come from a cowboy (even if not).

Very rarely do any of my domestic rewires come out less than £3k, and normally much more. And I'm flat out at the moment.
 
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Could get it done for half that price in the north east, i might move down south or maybe even commute i could make a killing by shamming these high prices
High prices, done it for half?? I reckon that parts could come to £1400 (as long as you don't use cheap shed downlights) and that would leave you about £850 for your time - I don't think so.
 

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it's a fair price, bit over northern rates, but, hey. if you can get a good price accepted, you can ensure you do a good job and not worry if it runs over a day.
 
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Sorry if i offended anyone, but its quite a regular occurance for us to carry out a rewire in 1 day/ 1day and half with 2-3 of us

I do remember my first rewire and wasnt nervous, i dont see whats to be nervous about its a payed job, just a little larger than a normal install

to quote 1400 for materials is just robbery, i can only imagine its because of different areas, i might start commuting down south, 2 rewires a week and back home

I can get a standard rewire kit with wylex DB dual split mcbs and all cable for MAX £800-900
 

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nobody's yet mentioned how many hours involved moving furniture, etc. this can add considerably to the time taken.
 
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Hats off to the OP, a reasonable price and a happy customer!
 

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Wade,

Well done, first contract under your belt, I was nervous my first rewire! (Long time ago)

Why dont you employ 616 to do it for you and just stay in bed?

Pay for him and his mates to stay in the local premier inn for 1 night.

Couple of grand profit!

Take that man at his word, I will certainly bear him in mind for my next rewire.
 
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I think it's a bit harsh trying to take a pop at the lad when we're all congratulating him - you had a first rewire one time in your life and I bet you had reservations too.

As for prices of rewires, no-one is being ripped off by sham rates down south - people tend to forget it costs us a heck of a lot more to live down here than up north. And there's nowt wrong with a bit o profit. Or did you plan to work for free?

i cant see how anyone could take offence at verns post,it was a tongue in cheek remark,and basically saying prices are much cheaper up north..chill people..:wub:
 
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I often watch rogue traders and do wonder if people like that exist, i now how true that is

Almost £5000 for a rewire is a complete joke, i honestly could do a decent certified job for half that price, and still be happy at the profit, i do beleve in quality, but if you work hard enough you can complete a rewire in a day day&half,

Tenant moves all furniture into middle of room, we have an apprentice chasing out with a machine then cleaning up, and 2 sparks wiring and 2nd fixing

Im seriously considering looking for work down south if you can get away with prices like that, 2 rewires per week and have the rest off work, id be considerbly well off in no amount of time.

No harm in working hard to get a job done is there? some will most probs say the work would be not up to standard, but i would gladly invite anyone to come see a rewire we have completed, lift the boards etc... you wont find a lot wrong at all
 
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vernam616

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Rewired a rather large bungalow around 10 weeks back, £1700 final price, materials cost around £400, worked 8am-6pm, two electricians and one labourer

Labourer on £100 day rate, £600 each electrician for ONE days work

Job was all plastered up, carpets down, furniture back
 
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I often watch rogue traders and do wonder if people like that exist, i now how true that is

Almost £5000 for a rewire is a complete joke, i honestly could do a decent certified job for half that price, and still be happy at the profit, i do beleve in quality, but if you work hard enough you can complete a rewire in a day day&half,

Tenant moves all furniture into middle of room, we have an apprentice chasing out with a machine then cleaning up, and 2 sparks wiring and 2nd fixing

Im seriously considering looking for work down south if you can get away with prices like that, 2 rewires per week and have the rest off work, id be considerbly well off in no amount of time.

No harm in working hard to get a job done is there? some will most probs say the work would be not up to standard, but i would gladly invite anyone to come see a rewire we have completed, lift the boards etc... you wont find a lot wrong at all
its doable vern,train down from the central,into london,sleep on the job or a b&b and back,might be worth looking into.me and trev might come too..tho london is way way more expensive than up here,down there you pay 250k for a parking space,we get a big 4 bed detatched up here..id never swap down there for up here...
 

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its doable vern,train down from the central,into london,sleep on the job or a b&b and back,might be worth looking into.me and trev might come too..tho london is way way more expensive than up here,down there you pay 250k for a parking space,we get a big 4 bed detatched up here..id never swap down there for up here...
Is that before or after you've travelled to a site survey beforehand, paid your congestion charge, £40+ for a stop in the NCP.....etc. Not spoiling for a scrap, I rarely even work in London, just making a point. All that glistens isn't gold. The place I lived before, my neighbour sold his parking space - for £40k. I'd stay up in the fresh air working hard!
 
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its doable vern,train down from the central,into london,sleep on the job or a b&b and back,might be worth looking into.me and trev might come too..tho london is way way more expensive than up here,down there you pay 250k for a parking space,we get a big 4 bed detatched up here..id never swap down there for up here...
I would commute in the van, buy all materials cheaper up here, travel down, dig over in nice hotel, could even do 3 in the week then have 4 days off, how many jobs would you accumulate at say for argument sake this OP's job for £4600, i reckon £3500-£4000, customers happy, were happy everyones a winner

Where abouts in north do you live? i dont live too far away from Trev
 
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Is that before or after you've travelled to a site survey beforehand, paid your congestion charge, £40+ for a stop in the NCP.....etc. Not spoiling for a scrap, I rarely even work in London, just making a point. All that glistens isn't gold. The place I lived before, my neighbour sold his parking space - for £40k. I'd stay up in the fresh air working hard!
When we said london we sort of meant down south in general, i wouldnt like to work in central london at all

Outskirts and surrounding areas definatley
 
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I would commute in the van, buy all materials cheaper up here, travel down, dig over in nice hotel, could even do 3 in the week then have 4 days off, how many jobs would you accumulate at say for argument sake this OP's job for £4600, i reckon £3500-£4000, customers happy, were happy everyones a winner

Where abouts in north do you live? i dont live too far away from Trev
your right vern.....close to trev too. g'head
 
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alarm man

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Is that before or after you've travelled to a site survey beforehand, paid your congestion charge, £40+ for a stop in the NCP.....etc. Not spoiling for a scrap, I rarely even work in London, just making a point. All that glistens isn't gold. The place I lived before, my neighbour sold his parking space - for £40k. I'd stay up in the fresh air working hard!
i will man,not a fan of stab city..
 
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Middlesbrough myself, you do much rewiring in gateshead? most of our work is up there i commute everyday, currently in Fenham installing PV
 
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alarm man

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Middlesbrough myself, you do much rewiring in gateshead? most of our work is up there i commute everyday, currently in Fenham installing PV
im not a house basher vern,i do alarms,which is a bit like electrics but easier with little cables.:sailor:
 
Wade, good for you, I wish you all the best on your first house rewire by your self.

On another note:- if anyone wants to debate the ins and outs of Wades prices, timescale and profits just start another thread and leave the man alone.

Last week he asked for advice on pricing, he received it and today has said he has the job. Great, stop p1ssing on his bonfire and support a fellow electrician ffs.

Wade, any help or advice that i/we can give you is yours. All you have to do is ask, you will receive. Good luck but at the end of the day you know what your doing so just get on with it regardless of what people think ;).
 
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Good luck with it, its a nice big project for a first rewire.
 
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alarm man

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ffs,not one person has said anything against the lad,not kin one,where show me where...
 
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vernam616

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I do Sometimes wonder if some on here are tradesmen, not very often you see people mincing around on site acting high and mighty, lets face it you wouldnt last 5 mins. /backtoearthmodeoff
 
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Im a little put out now i seem to have caused such a stir up witha few people.

At the end of the day, i priced the job according to going rates down here in the catchment i live in. I priced the job as honestly and fairly as i could and have no where tried to shaft her for extra profit. I have itemised the entire materials list with her so she gets EXACTLY what she wants, and shown her the prices of each item over a coffee so she knows im not trying to make a huge mark up on materials. As far as my labour goes, im simply charging what i percieve to be a fair and honest wage, and where i live and work, you wont get guys getting out of bed for less then £200 a day. £40 a point is reasonable, and like i said previously, whats most important is she is happy with the price, and she is. very hapy infact, becasue guys have gone in before me with 6 or 7k quotes for the work.

I appreciate wholeheartedly all the support from everyone on here, and your input has been truly invaluable. Thanks again for the advice and encouraging me
 
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And Murdoch ill def bear you in mind mate should i ever need a hand!
 

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Well done mate,

You stick to your fair price for a fair days work, we could all work for nothing.

I hope all goes well for you.
 

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Your price appears way above what I would charge for local to me work, but there are so many variables depending on the individual installation and its location
It makes comparisons impossible

You dont have to justify your prices and business terms to anybody,you are running a business,the customer is happy,you are happy
If the above is the same after the job,alls well and good
 
^^^^^ spot on Des. Wade son if the client is happy with you and your prices that is all that matters.

Perhaps she felt comfortable with you, perhaps she liked your approach in how you explained things and perhaps she believes you will do the best job for her and who knows perhaps she even fancies you.

You have given her the prices and your SoW and she as accepted them, all there is now to do is a good job for her and your away.

Best of luck son
 
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Hello all,

Just reading the comments. To be quite honest I think they're pretty harsh, I live very close to guildford, about 7 miles away, and when I quote I always charge £40 per point for a fully furnished house, so I think your quoting is spot on. Hope all goes well with the rewire.

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that price seems spot on, yes its cheaper up north but so is everything.
500k upnorth a palace, london maybe a 1 bed flat with no bathroom
- used to work with a load of northerners who did rewires in a day stayed down for week go back on weekend.
 
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Speaking to a plumber from Stoke on the job he's just bought his first house for 65k!! 2 bed detached, thats the deposit for a house round my way. I'm Surrey based and see nothing wrong with charging the local rate.:hurray: just under 5k would get a couple of barthrooms wired on st georges hill
 
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a lot of the old terraced houses in stoke are detached. only because next doors have been demolished. LOL.
 
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a lot of the old terraced houses in stoke are detached. only because next doors have been demolished. LOL.
When there that cheap I could buy the ones either side and knock them down myself:cyclist:
 
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A bloke i know picked up a 4 bed detached in middlesborough for £45k about 6 years ago. I mean it is Middlesborough but thats just insane. 4 bed my way your looking at £300k without any trouble at all.
 
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A bloke i know picked up a 4 bed detached in middlesborough for £45k about 6 years ago. I mean it is Middlesborough but thats just insane. 4 bed my way your looking at £300k without any trouble at all.
nothing wrong with your price mate, people up north seem to forget its a lot more expensive to live down here. i own a house in great yarmouth 2 bed end terrace big bit of land down the side of it £90k and the mortgage is only 300 month ffs only brought it as Holiday home i rent it out all year and me and the family have it in the summer if i could move it down here where i live it be worth 250k, i cant even buy a bus shelter for that around my way
 
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No im happy with the price, althought ive actually knocked off about 600 quid from the original quote as i have given her a bit of a discount on the switch points and im doing 8 points less then the original planned works as her kitchen is being built and wont be ready for a couple of weeks. so i think final price went in at £3845.
 
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No im happy with the price, althought ive actually knocked off about 600 quid from the original quote as i have given her a bit of a discount on the switch points and im doing 8 points less then the original planned works as her kitchen is being built and wont be ready for a couple of weeks. so i think final price went in at £3845.
mate you really don't have to explain your price, if it was me il would of charged her for a variation, its your business run it how you want charge what you like. poeple who say they can do it in a day. good luck trying to get 5 rewires a week who gives a xxxx if they are happy with 600 for a rewire good on them, me 600 wont even cover my rent where i am i price my job on what i need and diesel ect ect, i dont worry about people up north who can do it for half that price, rewires don't come up every day for me but hay if they wanna come down and do it half that price and try and get 5 a week good on em
 
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Well done on getting the job. I've just completed a rewire and whilst they are hard work you will have fun doing it. Your price will always differ from someone else's and I hope you have a good christmas out of it.
 
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Thanks Hiddo, i plan to lad.

Yea mate i dont feel i need to justify it, and i know the lads who work up north just envy the money thats available down here for the similar sort of work but like we have all outlined cost of living is double here as it there on many aspects of life, a know lads up north who still pay £1.50 a pint! my local is trying to skin me for £4.00 a guiness now! shameful!

I guess more then anything, this being my first re-wire im just interested in how im comparing price wise to most other contractors working in the south. and by the sounds of things im on par and not shooting myself in the foot or robbing anyone. So im happy.

I start the job sunday morning at the crack of crow sh*t so ill update those who are interested, on how im getting on. Re-wire diaries...im pretty sure that with all the sh*te on TV nowadays i could def take that to a producer somewhere and have a Tv show made...im sure there is a market for watching a bloke hurt himself and swear a lot?
 
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well can you put it on webcam i like a good laugh:20: and il give you a £1 for all the scrap cable you get out aswell, and dont forget your had hat:cyclist:
 
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£1 per metre yea pal? You on, you can have al the rubber insulated, rat chewed, pigeon shat on cable you like!

Hard hat, of course, almost forgot about that....
 
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oh here we go..the old north south divide..id pop down but in not sure my transport would make it..:snore:

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Seven legs? That's an impressive upgrade! Would probably not suit the Low Emissions Zone though :)
 
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Seven legs? That's an impressive upgrade! Would probably not suit the Low Emissions Zone though :)
its built for speed mate..and what come out the back end defo doesnt meet the emmisions..:prrr:
 

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Firstly, congratulations Wade on that nice job.
Secondly, Congratulations to Vern on £600 per day.
Looks like everyone is happy .... except me. I have never earnt £1200 or even £600 per day :(. Must speed up...
 
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Well if Wade plays his cards right he could have a very nice some of cash for 2 days work, unless he fancys dragging it out for a week or so?, id rather get done and get onto another job to get payed, each to their own i suppose

Wade - 45k for a 4 bed detached it a bit of bull**** pal, i payed over 100k for a 3 bed semi, we can all make things up to make other people jealous of "bargains" we have gained..... naive is the word?
 

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Two days, that's impressive. My word, you must be laughing at us all. I think you miss the point, it's not dragging it out it's not being as fast as you. I think you are exceptionally fast! I work long days too and I could not do that for half as by the time I paid vat I would be taking home the same as your labourer!
 
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Well if Wade plays his cards right he could have a very nice some of cash for 2 days work, unless he fancys dragging it out for a week or so?, id rather get done and get onto another job to get payed, each to their own i suppose

Wade - 45k for a 4 bed detached it a bit of bull**** pal, i payed over 100k for a 3 bed semi, we can all make things up to make other people jealous of "bargains" we have gained..... naive is the word?
il rather work by myself and earn all the money and take 1 week then be on a labourer rate. if you done a rewire with another sparky and a labourer for £1700 and happy on that then well done mate because like most down here ant worth getting outta bed for
 
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Well if Wade plays his cards right he could have a very nice some of cash for 2 days work, unless he fancys dragging it out for a week or so?, id rather get done and get onto another job to get payed, each to their own i suppose

Wade - 45k for a 4 bed detached it a bit of bull**** pal, i payed over 100k for a 3 bed semi, we can all make things up to make other people jealous of "bargains" we have gained..... naive is the word?
Mate, by the sounds of things, you must be driving around in a rolls phantom and enjoying long afternoons drinking beer floating in your pool by the amount of rewires you can get done in a week?! i guess that three bed semi you just bought is just a sort of walk in wardrobe for you yea? maybe you keep all your wizard outfits there that help you magic up all these 1 day re-wires. I really am impressed lad. Naive may be the word, or is cynical opinionated git yours?
 
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Mate, by the sounds of things, you must be driving around in a rolls phantom and enjoying long afternoons drinking beer floating in your pool by the amount of rewires you can get done in a week?! i guess that three bed semi you just bought is just a sort of walk in wardrobe for you yea? maybe you keep all your wizard outfits there that help you magic up all these 1 day re-wires. I really am impressed lad. Naive may be the word, or is cynical opinionated git yours?
well all i can say is if he gave over 100000 for a 3 bed semi up north they must be laughing all the way to the bank, that's naive
 
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Mate, by the sounds of things, you must be driving around in a rolls phantom and enjoying long afternoons drinking beer floating in your pool by the amount of rewires you can get done in a week?! i guess that three bed semi you just bought is just a sort of walk in wardrobe for you yea? maybe you keep all your wizard outfits there that help you magic up all these 1 day re-wires. I really am impressed lad. Naive may be the word, or is cynical opinionated git yours?
Why must i be driving around in a rolls? i dont do rewires everyday, you would be quite lucky to get that, and yes you can get them done in a day, when you experienced enough, as to which i see you arnt, you own/run a electrical company and put a post onto the internet to say your nervous about rewiring someones house, especially after stating that ridiculous price is genuinely laughable, look forward to seeing you on Rogue Traders pal

You guys should have a look on right move website? i got no reason to lie and the house i live in is of adequate size, i certainly havnt got anything to prove to a half breed 2 week "electrician" like yourself

Good luck with that 2 week rewire
 
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I just get tired of people who see life through rose tinted lenses

Anyone who doesnt beleve it cannot be done, please do come and visit, sit and observe or help out

Lets face it half these on here wouldnt dream of talking to someone like that on site, so why on here?

Earlier back in the thread i had posted that i never meant to cause any offence, yet see what happens?
 
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and you gooner...down boy..you'll end up with a ban too man...chill people,kids..you dont see me and ken acting like this..at least ken only calls me ginger nuts..:nono:
 
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who the hell are you to say he ripping people off because he charged 4k just because you cant get it up north, you cant stand it because he charged 4k he going to be on Rogue Traders, i think your 1 day rewire got more chance,
 
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and you gooner...down boy..you'll end up with a ban too man...chill people,kids..you dont see me and ken acting like this..at least ken only calls me ginger nuts..:nono:
are you ginger? if so whats the problem ken calling you that
 
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who the hell are you to say he ripping people off because he charged 4k just because you cant get it up north, you cant stand it because he charged 4k he going to be on Rogue Traders, i think your 1 day rewire got more chance,

No my comment referring to rogue traders was because he is running a company and coming on here announcing insecurities about doing a rewire, alarm bells would ring

Its like a pilot announcing " its my first time flying and im very nervous wish me luck " to his passengers on a 500 seat jumbo jet
 
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Do people not see this as imcompetance? i just love some of the things i read on here

"ive got a fault how do i sort it, the light switch isnt operating the light, where do i start "
 
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alarm man

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are you ginger? if so whats the problem ken calling you that
i have a tinge of it yes..doesnt bother me,im not gingeist..tho if i was black it would be racist...but were getting into pc territory there and that will send ken over the edge..:ninja:
 
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alarm man

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id be careful what you type,theres always someone ready to twist it...:biggrin:
 
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