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Pete999

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I found the very subtle digs at Ms Clancy's presentation very amusing, the pictures of wads of cash appearing everywhere, the Chap sat behind Her right shoulder, smiling in what I thought was disbelief, worth a watch.
 
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LankyWill

The sole reason I’m not registered with any scheme, it’s just a money making scheme imposed on us by others.
 

Midwest

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Simple, don’t do domestic work, twice the money and half the hassle.

Still doesn't resolve the fact, that even in commercial & industrial fields, there are contractors who don't come up to a sufficient standard.

Some of their clients have a clerk of works ( or whatever the title is these days), that carry out inspections of verification of installations. But many don't.
 

anthonybragg

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I know one contractor after going through revisit inspections was removed from the NICEIC roll and joined NAPIT straight after.
 

Des 56

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I know one contractor after going through revisit inspections was removed from the NICEIC roll and joined NAPIT straight after.
Breaking news,in order to dispel that myth the Nic issued the following statement

"Contrary to rumours we can assure our prospective members that no such action has ever,or will ever be undertaken by us"
 

Vortigern

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This is all much ado about nothing. You get good and bad in every area/trade/position universally. If the government want to make a big deal about us electricians let us form a CPS for entering governance and let us see how many of the 650 members meet muster for morals (none?) skill(none) honesty(expenses scandal) and so on. I think I could winnow them down to a handful in a few weeks. And they dare to sit as our judge and master? Foscar Oxtrot!
 

Pete999

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This is all much ado about nothing. You get good and bad in every area/trade/position universally. If the government want to make a big deal about us electricians let us form a CPS for entering governance and let us see how many of the 650 members meet muster for morals (none?) skill(none) honesty(expenses scandal) and so on. I think I could winnow them down to a handful in a few weeks. And they dare to sit as our judge and master? Foscar Oxtrot!
Someone tuched a nerve Vorty?:D :)
 

Vortigern

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Sometimes the futility of all these schemes and the fairness (lack of) does get my dander up, yes. Not one of these schemes has stopped all the dodgy tradesmen. The schemes have now become monsters consuming our cash (us honest tradesmen) and the dodgy ones getting away with cash in hand dangerous work. And all this while not getting one step further to effective regulation and safety. Then on top of it wasting taxes I pay to investigate for the umpteenth time schemes that do not work, cut the gordian knot I say do away with all schemes you are either competent through the old fashioned apprentice scheme or not allowed under pain of prison/fine to do such work.
 

davesparks

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Still doesn't resolve the fact, that even in commercial & industrial fields, there are contractors who don't come up to a sufficient standard.

Some of their clients have a clerk of works ( or whatever the title is these days), that carry out inspections of verification of installations. But many don't.
The question I was answering wasn’t about solving anything, the question was regarding how do you work without being registered with a scheme.

The simple answer is that you can work in the non-domestic sector without scheme membership, and make more money doing so.
 

westward10

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I could be incorrect but wasn't the initial thinking to have one scheme which the public could identify with like CORGI, now GasSafe. How on earth can electrical safety be correctly monitored with all these different schemes sniping at each other in an attempt to put THEIR head above the parapet.
 

Midwest

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The question I was answering wasn’t about solving anything, the question was regarding how do you work without being registered with a scheme.

The simple answer is that you can work in the non-domestic sector without scheme membership, and make more money doing so.
Putting up a few lights for Mrs Miggins, ain't gonna make you much money. The trap is (being in the domestic market), you've got to be in a scheme (England & Wales) to make it financially viable.
 

davesparks

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Putting up a few lights for Mrs Miggins, ain't gonna make you much money. The trap is (being in the domestic market), you've got to be in a scheme (England & Wales) to make it financially viable.
Which is why I said you can work in the NON DOMESTIC sector without being registered with a scheme and earn more money doing so.
 

anthonybragg

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I could be incorrect but wasn't the initial thinking to have one scheme which the public could identify with like CORGI, now GasSafe. How on earth can electrical safety be correctly monitored with all these different schemes sniping at each other in an attempt to put THEIR head above the parapet.
All these schemes have done is take the pressure off LBC who would not have been able to cope when Part P came into effect. They have pulled in electricians who work in the new and existing domestic housing markets and for some good those like kitchen fitters etc.
 

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