Ideal 32a inline connectors

[amckay]

Been to a job today "can you come and have a look at this please my sockets aren't working".
DIY Dave has been in and extended a ring from a point where the client wanted a socket removing.
New sockets now not working. So I proceed to chase around his bodged plastering. This is what I find.

 

[Marvo]

What did he crimp them with? Hammer and chisel maybe...

 

[Brightspark2]

I'm surprised at that...I thought they looked quite good...

 

[driverman]

I've never seen or used wago's.....is that what has been used?

 

[amckay]

Yeah its like a wago but made by ideal. I use them myself. I can't believe it, they're rated at 32A and the biggest load connected to the ring was a newly installed electric fire place which is on a plug top.
I think it probably wasn't fitted properly and has just been arcing inside but I'll be sending ideal an email

 

[Marvo]

I thought it looked like a crimp, I assume from what you're saying it's a push-in connector.

 

[amckay]

Yes marvo they just push in. I think they're spring loaded to keep the connection from coming loose

 

[shanky887614]

they spin when on the end of the cables so there a load of carp.

shouldnt be able to twist them around the conductor.


it looks like the internal connection between the two push fit terminals has failed.

lever wago's or crimps are the way to go

 

[tomspark93]

I think that's the first one I've come across that's failed. They are pretty solid when you pull the two connected ends but if the connectors spin then they can loosen off

 

[shanky887614]

I think that's the first one I've come across that's failed. They are pretty solid when you pull the two connected ends but if the connectors spin then they can loosen off

that is the problem, we use pushfit connections all the time on danfoss inverters/pumps and they wont come loose if your wiggle or try to twist cable (same design as legrand switches)

 

[Brightspark2]

I think that's the first one I've come across that's failed. They are pretty solid when you pull the two connected ends but if the connectors spin then they can loosen off

But that's how you are meant to remove them, you twist them round the conductor and pull...

 

[7029 dave]

Never seen that type, not that I have used any, but seen the waggo type they look ok, crimps are my favourite.

 

[wildgoose]

Those Ideal in-line connectors are normally very good and should easily handle rfc loads. What's probably happened, is that he's pushed it into the little testing hole cavity instead of the hole for the cable. You need to look side on when the cables are loaded to see if they aligned and fully pushed- in.

 

[nickblake]

Used loads never had a problem with them what i would be more concerned about is weather there is a break in the ring and all the load has been on the connector ,
also as its been plastered over has it got wet

 

[polo1]

Used loads never had a problem with them what i would be more concerned about is weather there is a break in the ring and all the load has been on the connector ,
also as its been plastered over has it got wet

Likewise, used many times with no problem. Interested to see if Ideal come back with a view.

 

[wildgoose]

Even with a broken ring circuit, you would be hard pushed to cause that sort of damage to a 32 amp rated connector - assuming the rfc had a 32 amp fuse in it!

 

[telectrix]

my money's on the cable not being pushed fully home or possibly a faulty connector. let's face it. the titanic has thousands of dodgy rivets.