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martind

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I’ve just been talking to a sparky about the installation of a new consumer unit in a property that is going to be let.
He has explained to me that being NIC/EIC permits him to certify his own installation work when complete. He explained that he is unable to legally provide a certificate for letting purposes, as letting deems the property to be commercial in nature.
He continued to explain that to obtain a certificate for the purpose of a letting, one must obtain this certificate from an approved “electrical contractor”.
I just thought I would share this information with the forum, and hope that other landlords are aware of the distinction between an installation certificate (that is ok for domestic installations) & an approved contractor’s completion certificate (that is required for properties that are being let).
 
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Mark_Burgess

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Thats the biggest load of bull ever, you do not need to be part of any competent persons scheme to do commercial work.
Either you are on a wind up or he is an idiot.

Read your second sentance up to the full stop. He dont want the work!!
 
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martind

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Mark, I am greatfull for any correct info. I am not a sparky, but am relying on what sparkys are telling me, including the sparkys on here.

Surely there must be some official docs available? (I don`t want to be on any manslaughter charges)
 

Amp David

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Rubbish!

Where about are you, i'll come and do it and give you a nice new Electrical Installation Cert for it LOL
 

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What a load of old pish. It's well past beer o'clock to start going on about domestic and commercial lettings.
 
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1shortcircuit

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I do and have provided an EIC for a consumer unit I replaced in a domestic property that was being let. Also accompanied with notification to Local Authority Building Control.
 
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PC Electrics

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Utter tosh!!!

Is this some kind of elaborate wind up?
 
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Plonker 3

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Sounds like NICEIC are trying to brainwash their own members now :banghead:
 
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DurhamSparky

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getting DI ti sign up for AC status... lol money money money!!
 
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Plonker 3

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The problem is NICEIC are the largest recognized body, which in turn creates its own rules, which now causes people with not little or no experience into thinking they can not do commercial or industrial jobs without being certified by them.
 
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1shortcircuit

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The problem is NICEIC are the largest recognized body, which in turn creates its own rules, which now causes people with not little or no experience into thinking they can not do commercial or industrial jobs without being certified by them.
IIRC it is only the NICEIC who distinguish between Domestic Installer and Approved Contractor?

I am with Elecsa after passing my Domestic Installer course yet I am registered as an Elecsa Part P Approved CONTRACTOR.

Sounds to me like some need to jump ship rather than pay more money:thumbsup
 
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DurhamSparky

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Im also Elecsa Approved Contractor... (whats part p.....) i only mentionpart p when building regs are involved..!
 
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Plonker 3

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NICEIC used to mean something completely different to what it means today.

It had to dumb down it's entry requirements to compete with the likes of NAPIT and ELECSA to get people to join for PART P.

Not saying competition is a bad thing but the others seemed to have allowed its name to not having the reputation it once had, but now the Electrical Trainee and those straight of college can become members.

I am a member of ELECSA for the record.
 

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Someone clearly has a different NICEIC assessor to me as mine only talks sense :)
 

HandySparks

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No distinction between commercial and non-commercial work. What matters is whether it's residential (Part P notification applies) or non-residential. (This is in England and Wales.)
 
Following the logic given to the OP by this spark when I was on the Decent Homes programme rewiring houses every EIC I did, and there must have been well over 100, is therefore invalid as all these propertys are let.
What a load of auld tosh
 
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Engineer54

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As HandySparks has stated, my understanding of Part Pee is that ''ANY'' residential premises be it for own use, company use, or for letting purposes comes under the Part Pee jurisdiction blanket....
 

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