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The point I was trying to make is that even in a domestic situation there is the 220V system in place alongside the more widely recognised 110V. Hence the comment that American systems are less dangerous is not entirely accurate.

But you still have not understood that it is not 110v (or 220v), it is 120v and 240v.
 
If you are working under safe isolation practices you shouldn't need insulated tools in theory. Doesn't work like that though.

Having had accidents in my youth with standard tools I know that even non VDE tools will offer protection to some degree. :oops::rolleyes:

I do use VDE tools by the way.
In theory
If you practice 109% of the time safe isolation you shouldn’t have to use anything with an insulated grip or handle ....

However I have blown up several pairs of ck insulated side cutters with chomping through a cable I presumed dead but wasn’t and bang, nice blow hole in my £25 cutters

But every time I have suffered no shock due to the insulating gripe

Screwdrivers I’m not so fussed about as nearly every driver in my box has some sort of rubber grip
 
The obvious answer is obviously uninsulated, because it's a major league serious contravention of some doctrine or other that one shouldn't be working (testing) live :Do_O:confused:o_O:D
 
The obvious answer is obviously uninsulated, because it's a major league serious contravention of some doctrine or other that one shouldn't be working (testing) live :Do_O:confused:o_O:D
 
Recently a meccy with dubious " foreign electrical quals" was at work and he was asked to disconnect a temporary supply 3 phase from a machine

He jumped straight in with his non insulated screwdriver and got a 240v shock as he hadn't isolated the supply.

We were talking about the incident and it came up that in a weird way he was actually lucky he had used non insulated as if he'd have been using VDE he would more than likely received a 400v shock as he would have disconnected the 3 phases and grabbed hold of them to pull out of the terminal area!
Supervisor was severely reprimanded for this as 4 non electricians had shocks doing this over 3 or 4 weeks
Now only qualified personnel and not self proposed competent people are allowed to do anything regarding mains voltages
Although the safe isolation procedure here is a joke!
 
I'f I'm working on a motor, I'll use non-insulated tools.
I'f I were working on a door, kitchen cabinet, bath panel, etc. I'd use whatever was readily available.
For general electrical work, I would use insulated tools.
For industrial and commercial electrical work, I'd use both insulated and non-insulated tools.
For live electrical work, I'd use insulating tools.
for explosive atmospheres, I'd use non-magnetic/non-sparking tools.
 
No insulated screwdrivers here never seen the need. Side cutters yes. Don’t have pliers at work only loose them. Maybe it’s because I am old and we never had them when I was an apprentice.
 

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