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Im classed as a 2nd year apprentice because i went to college for year but i have only been working on site for less than 5 months. the work the company does is heavily built around industrial/commercial work so you obviously need to know a lot more, it got me thinking is it really worth doing for 3/4 years to only be paid 10-13 pound especially in the places i work you need to know so much more and im always struggling to do things finding it hard, which i don't mind because barely got any practical experience on site so i just think about it in that perspective. Just wanted to know whether you actual sparks had to go through all these struggles and whether you think its worth it to be paid an average wage for this sort of work.
 
It's a good trade to be in if you enjoy the work, the money is better than that of your average job, and there is extra benefits in the future with experience! Everybody going through and apprenticeship finds it hard, you will learn most of the trade after you qualify and get chucked in the deep end! Worth sticking in!
 
Im classed as a 2nd year apprentice because i went to college for year but i have only been working on site for less than 5 months. the work the company does is heavily built around industrial/commercial work so you obviously need to know a lot more, it got me thinking is it really worth doing for 3/4 years to only be paid 10-13 pound especially in the places i work you need to know so much more and im always struggling to do things finding it hard, which i don't mind because barely got any practical experience on site so i just think about it in that perspective. Just wanted to know whether you actual sparks had to go through all these struggles and whether you think its worth it to be paid an average wage for this sort of work.

First things first, dont take the negative veiws on the industry thats bandied round here too seriously

being an appretice is really hard going and you feel like you dont really know what your doing but trust me one day it will be a whole lot easier

If you work hard and end up good at what you do then you will do well and earn well, if you wish to plod along doing agency work etc then you will only ever earn an average wage, but thats true whatever job you work in

at a time when university is pushed onto every kid with an ounce of common sense which usually leads to working back in sports soccer after attaining a useless degree and amassing a pile of student debt, skilled trades are seen as beneath most young people And largely ignored as too much hard work

if your good at your job, and push yourself to be specialised in your trade, and educate yourself on business practices, you will be in a tiny minority in years to come, when no-one wants or knows how to do anything practical for themselves

if in doubt complete your apprentiship first then once you got your ticket then look at something else if you must, look at this site at how many people come on here desperate for a chance to have what you have got
 
Stick it out finish your time if you don't like it do something else you might then relies an electricians job is quite interesting and if I'm honest for all the moaning I've done over the years it's done me ok lol
 
There's enough said our trade being on its knees with all the Electrical Trainee's etc, but it should take a turn again for the better, can only last so long in this state!
 
Stick it out man , your halfway there now anyway. There are lots of different types of work you can go into after your times up. I've moved into maintainance now as I got sick of bursting my arse installing. I get my 30k and a fairly easy ride. However there are opportunities to make much more if you don't mind working away from home and lots of overtime etc...
 
Would you rather be on £10-£13 an hour or minium wage which is below £7? Two of my mates have both been to University and have a degree and I earn more than them on my yearly basic than the two of their salaries combined! Stick at it!
 
So just get my apprenticeship done and possibly branch out... You mentioned you get 30k are you working for some other firm or is it your own ??
 
Im classed as a 2nd year apprentice because i went to college for year but i have only been working on site for less than 5 months. the work the company does is heavily built around industrial/commercial work so you obviously need to know a lot more, it got me thinking is it really worth doing for 3/4 years to only be paid 10-13 pound especially in the places i work you need to know so much more and im always struggling to do things finding it hard, which i don't mind because barely got any practical experience on site so i just think about it in that perspective. Just wanted to know whether you actual sparks had to go through all these struggles and whether you think its worth it to be paid an average wage for this sort of work.

You shouldn't be making less than £14ph when you get your time out. I know guys are out there earning upwards of £18ph plus overtime rates. You just need to stick in. Good luck.
 
see now them prices are the prices i want, the company im working for now i know i will get horrible pay there, the spark who works for my boss is his actual best friend he has 9 years experience and hes on 12.50 he said to me you wont get more than that with him which put me off about it a lot because i want to be paid more than that. I understand as soon as im qualified it wont be that but eventually i want it to be in that 14-18 region. What sort of work do these guys do by the way who get this money ?
 
see now them prices are the prices i want, the company im working for now i know i will get horrible pay there, the spark who works for my boss is his actual best friend he has 9 years experience and hes on 12.50 he said to me you wont get more than that with him which put me off about it a lot because i want to be paid more than that. I understand as soon as im qualified it wont be that but eventually i want it to be in that 14-18 region. What sort of work do these guys do by the way who get this money ?

Installers on large construction sites eg office blocks, schools, government buildings. Guys who want to earn that money generally work away from home wherever the work pops up. Not everyone gets these rates but my point is, its out there.

Me personally I like my home comforts and have kids so im happy working locally for what I consider a decent wage.

It might not be the most exciting job at times but theres far worse.
 
You're in a good position right now, being paid and in training. BUT, you will never be paid the rate you deserve once you finish your time with that firm.

That is just the way it works. That's the way it went for me and many others I know. Stick at it till you qualify, keep them happy, then leave on good terms. Never burn your bridges. I can go and work for ANY of the firms that previously employed me as a 'mate' and get the rate that they wouldn't give me at the time.

Don't try and run before you can walk. Show interest. If you are only pulling cables, find 5 minutes to chat to the guy doing the mains panel, put yourself about a bit, maybe volunteer your interest to the gaffer. I have recently secured a couple of lovely one man jobs by showing my interest in upcoming projects.

Marketing yourself isn't just limited to getting a new job, but an ongoing mission within the organisation that you are with.
 
So just get my apprenticeship done and possibly branch out... You mentioned you get 30k are you working for some other firm or is it your own ??


Work satisfaction is a big part what you should look for primarily in a job you intend to do for the long term

working for yourself when your ready is the main way to go if you want the higher earnings [say £50k+]
but you have to have a good business mind on your shoulders too, not only being a good spark will get you there, but thats all part of learning
 
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Most aprentices get little pay (less than minimum wage) but you are learning a trade! we have all had to endure this burden some more than others.
What realy matters is are you getting the right experience.
Have a read on the forum and you will find people looking to work for free or very little just to do the same.
You are half way there knuckle down work hard and learn the cash will come later.
Ps every day is a school day in this trade
 
Looking purely at the domestic scene:

Last year 145,000 new homes were built in the UK. (It should be a lot more)
Every one of those homes needs your sort of skills and that's not to mention all of the refurb/rebuild/rewire stuff.

Of course it is worth it. Stick with it, electriciaty isn't going away!!
And the market is moving into smart home territory - in a couple of years you could find a new market in installing systems that control all of those networked heating systems, fridges and automated pet feeders!!
 
stick at it, if you get good at containment and hard working other firms will be happy to take you on and teach you something different.

i got lucky in a way that the firm im on does mainly bms but will turn there hand to anything and we have subed out to a lot larger firm when we needed to as well
 
This is an age old thread (so I applogy for responding to this thread), so i'm not sure what the OP ended up doing, with previous advice given. Whether he quit or completed the apprenticeship or not. Which ever the case I hope he made the correct decision for himself. Whether he stuck it out or quit.
But with that said for anyone else in similar posistion as OP was 5 years ago, I would like to point out no job is worth its money if its only going to make you misserable and affect your mental health. If you worry about doing this job (or any job for that matter) and it starts affecting your work performance and your function in daily life outside of it, then there are clear sign that this job is not worth your time and mental well being. So in some cases the right course of action would be drooping out/quiting, If you are still in school and you have not signed with any company for the training part, you could always change the course of study. But if you do so, check what rules you school has when it comes to drooping out/changing courses. They will tell you where and when its best to make your changes as drooping out in the middle of semister can affect whether or not you are being re-admitted next semister. IF you have signed for the apprenticeship with a company just re-read the contract and check date you signed the contract and that should tell you the best course of action. If you are just few weeks in, you might want too start filling out the cancellation papers, give reason why you are quitting and have al the correct inviduals sign the cancellation papers and with that your apprenticeship contract is gone for good. However if you have very little left of yourt apprenticeship contract you might want stick it out and complete the program.
 
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