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rmc86uk

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Hi everyone,

I would very much appreciate your feedback/comments regarding this electricial install to help my cousin who has been ripped off and potentially could have put her life at risk!

She has recently had new decking fitted in the back garden and a family friend of hers who I kind of know put in the electrics for the outside lighting. This kid has being doing electrics since leaving school (approx 10years) and I know the firm he served his time with and I have come accross his work before!

He has installed outside lights to the decking in 1.5mm and took the feed straight from a kitchen socket under the sink and cut the earth out. He's then run it to an outside two gang switch (to which only one gang was needed) he then took the feed out of the switch in 2.5mm and fed every metal* light fitting reducing the cable size to 1.5mm then back to 2.5mm. He has cut off every earth at every connection point terminated in connectors and left them out in the open...yes in the open! He has made so many connections in connector blocks and failed to connect the earths from the fittings.

I had to go round earlier to see for myself as I did not believe that he had done such disgusting work when my cousin told me. I have asked for her permission to put these photos up and would like some feedback off other electricians.

I have uploaded some photos to show you how bad this install is.

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Taylortwocities

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Perfectly dreadful.
And dangerous. I hope you left it disconnected.
 

Strima

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Where are you located mate? That is shocking, excuse the pun.

I would quite happily come round free of charge to inspect and issue any necessary paperwork which you can then pass to LABC and trading standards.

In my short itme I've seen some dodgy work but that's just taking the ****.

I'm guessing you've disconnected it all?
 
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Guest111

the question is this "Is he time served or about to serve time?" is he supposed to be a spark or is he training as a hitman?
 

rmc86uk

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Where are you located mate? That is shocking, excuse the pun.

I would quite happily come round free of charge to inspect and issue any necessary paperwork which you can then pass to LABC and trading standards.

In my short itme I've seen some dodgy work but that's just taking the ****.

I'm guessing you've disconnected it all?
I'm up at Sheffield pal, I'm not too familiar about the domestics Part P side and building control but I have disconnected it thank god!


Just to clarify to one of the above members this is not my mate who installed this I know him only very vaguely! I was more concerned for my cousins safety!
 

Richard Burns

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That is absolutely abysmal. I would expect a teenage diyer to do a better job than that.
Demonstrates a total lack of understanding of anything electrical.
 

Strima

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I should have added impartial into my post, that way there's no grey area when he claims someone is out to get him...
 
You would have been better doing the install, part p or no part p.

There is NO way that install has ever been certified or notified!
 
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jonnyboy1

Terrible standard of work and personally if I was the customer here I would get trading standards in as this is worse than the builders electrics they had on cowboy builders.

To fix this job I would start from scratch
all cables wired in swa enclosed in kopex underground
All joints in suitable ip rated enclosure, with artic or reinforced flex glanded out ip enclosure to light fittings.

Switching
is there any local light switches I.e outside light if so drill through for your feed either fix swa to wall using cleats or enclose in 20/25mm PVC conduit with end box

And make sure you get your money back
 

rmc86uk

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Terrible standard of work and personally if I was the customer here I would get trading standards in as this is worse than the builders electrics they had on cowboy builders.

To fix this job I would start from scratch
all cables wired in swa enclosed in kopex underground
All joints in suitable ip rated enclosure, with artic or reinforced flex glanded out ip enclosure to light fittings.

Switching
is there any local light switches I.e outside light if so drill through for your feed either fix swa to wall using cleats or enclose in 20/25mm PVC conduit with end box

And make sure you get your money back
Thanks for your reply Jon I have told her to rip it out and demand all of the £1100 back from him as he has also done some other work to the garden like turfing and concreting and messed that up aswell!

I advised on a similar installation you have come up with when I was round earlier but take a supply to the shed and have power and lighting in there and a feed off this for the decking lights.

When she asked for receipts off him he just wrote figures down on a piece of paper as they could not justify the amounts he had spent. He then put in receipts for tools such as rachet, toolbag, wood saw, screwdrivers and a £50 B&Q voucher! It really does puzzle us what he's been upto!



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Why did your cousin pay him? Surely she was not happy with the look from the "outside".
 

rmc86uk

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He was paid up front by my Auntie, I think it's going to be a struggle to get their money back but I'm sure the HSE would like to hear about it!

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I wouldn't have minded but I told him to put some tape around those choc blocks ....................last time I answer a thread starting with

"I've been asked to do some outside lights for a friend ................."
 

Taylortwocities

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Tell him to repay the money or you will report him to the Local Authority. This is notifiable work and he won't have notified. So that's one law broken, not to mention the dangerous nature of the work.

And are those flood lamps really meant to go in those lanterns, i don't think so.
 

kingeri

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I can just picture a kiddie poking their little fingers into one of those terminal blocks, or even putting one in their mouth. Whoever did that should serve time behind bars.
 
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Guest111

I can just picture a kiddie poking their little fingers into one of those terminal blocks, or even putting one in their mouth. Whoever did that should serve time behind bars.
If he,d done a job like that for one of my relations it would be me behind bars,he,d be in intensive care!
 
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Jim_Tyne_Wear

Unbelievable!! Whoever did that wiring really should be reported to necessary authorities....for their OWN safety, if no one elses!
 
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Swicade

it's total tripe....my 11yr old son would design and install it better than that and that's with no training he just watched me around the house.

A child wouldn't even need to poke around the connectors...one trip on the decking with arms held out to break the fall and they'd stand a good chance of grabbing the unclipped cable's and ripping them out for starters.

Wrong bulb's,no earth's,no testing,no clipping,no basic cable protection,bad design,no water proofing of joints (not even a diyers insulation tape)....sure i've missed afew more bad/dangerous points.(i'd need that Clive Holland guy from cowboy trap to make it sound extra,extra dangerous to scare you more)

Also the legal side of no notification.

Nothing good to say at all.
 
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drew35

Its hard to believe that anybody would carry out work to that sub sub sub standard level! Was he trying to kill somebody??? None of its right, he couldn't even get the right bulb for f sake!!! Exposed live connections outside??? You need to find this person and break his thumbs to stop him doing it again. . . . . !
 

Strima

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There is a definite need to name and shame this individual.
 
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frank3323

i thought all that part P rubbish was meant to stop this kind of thing??
 
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Mark_Burgess

Personally, i'd get him back on the promise of some more work, then beat his head against every fitting or accessory he has fitted until you get the money back.
 

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