Joiners taking our jobs

[tosh2057]

My cuz is working on the largest ship In Uk history and as a spark he informs me that joiners out number sparks 3-1 getting paid the same to do a **** job on ladder/tray/etc how is this happening fukin sick of our trade getting ripped apart from 16 month so called skill techs milk man to spark in 16 month and now the North Sea is filling with house bashers wi no idea ! And now fekin joiners F U K IN DISGRACE!!!

 

[Megavolt]

I would appear this trade is doomed. Wonder how long it would take me to become a joiner. Bet there couses are longer then 5 weeks

 

[Engineer54]

My cuz is working on the largest ship In Uk history and as a spark he informs me that joiners out number sparks 3-1 getting paid the same to do a **** job on ladder/tray/etc how is this happening fukin sick of our trade getting ripped apart from 16 month so called skill techs milk man to spark in 16 month and now the North Sea is filling with house bashers wi no idea ! And now fekin joiners F U K IN DISGRACE!!!

Eh, ....Try 16 day's or 5 weeks. 16 Months and they will be well and truly over qualified these day's!! lol!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

My cuz is working on the largest ship In Uk history and as a spark he informs me that joiners out number sparks 3-1 getting paid the same to do a **** job on ladder/tray/etc how is this happening fukin sick of our trade getting ripped apart from 16 month so called skill techs milk man to spark in 16 month and now the North Sea is filling with house bashers wi no idea ! And now fekin joiners F U K IN DISGRACE!!!

kev kitchen havin a go at sparkyin....

nowt new there....

 

[Guest55]

with any luck the ship will sink due to lack of tray earthing.
;-)

 

[silverfox1]

kev kitchen havin a go at sparkyin....

nowt new there....

Bang on there Glenn, chippys / small builders been doing electrics on there jobs since time immemorial, to be honest I thought it was for threse guys part pee came about but it seems to have grown into a monster.

 

[Badged01]

Unfortunately we have heard it all before and it wont change as long as Mr/Mrs Public arent aware that it should be a fully qualified electrical tradesperson doing the job and providing the appropriate paperwork! What they dont know about they wont worry about and the builder/kitchen fitter/plumber/tiler etc.... aint gonna be telling them!!

Now, whats this electrical safety register thingy meant to be doing ..........

 

[i=p/u]

Sparksafeltp.org

 

[tosh2057]

And it's getting worst now there joiners now putting cables into panels unite won't look into this total disgrace !!!!

 

[Hawkmoon]

My brother is a time served joiner and on one particular project I used him for installation of containment.

His work was as good as any electricians - particularly in one area where dado trunking had to be manually 'mitred' to out of square corners/walls.

The hand skills competence particular to joiners is easily transferable to containment installation so I don't agree that competence is an issue.

Whether joiners should be replacing electricians in the instance you describe, is of course another matter!

 

[Knobhead]

It may have helped had the OP posted some evidence of this. All I’m seeing is an incoherent rant with nothing to back it up.

 

[Meggerman]

It was last July so he has probably chilled out now

 

[Hawkmoon]

It was last July so he has probably chilled out now

Nope, he posted 1 day ago, still irate

 

[Meggerman]

Nope, he posted 1 day ago, still irate

Oh yeah , so he did..... I stand corrected

 

[Engineer54]

Back in my day, the big projects had containment gangs to install all the conduit, tray, ladders and such. These gangs used to travel the length and breadth of the country going from one big project to the next. Site electricians couldn't touch them for the amount these gangs could fabricate in a day, nore on the quality of the work they were installing. Worked virtually on the same rate as electricians too. Worth their weight in gold on the bigger projects. Those guys could run in multiple banks of conduit that were visually a work of art, each bend/set following exactly the same as those next to it...

 

[ian.settle1]

It may have helped had the OP posted some evidence of this. All I’m seeing is an incoherent rant with nothing to back it up.

He won't be able to as he made o new posting about the new carriers being built when Archy String posted a reply and he was insulted by the OP so has been banned if you look at his name.


http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...l-electrical-forum/90636-rosyth-dockyard.html

 

[benji]

I wonder what Frank Foulkes would have said