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timo1

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I cant imagine that they would make any money, unless the bill rises as you encounter problems. I saw a similar ad which was for a new cu for £250. I would say its impossible to give a fixed price until you have visited the address.
 
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thekingiam

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googled the company in yellow pages,plumming heating electrical says fully qualified i was wondering if this could be a plummer doing full scope work?
can a kitchen fitter plummer etc that have sighned up with elecsa etc do full rewires on limmited scope.
makes me wonder how many other trades have got there foot in the door doing electric work maybe i need to do plumbing or fit kitchens?
 

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I'm assuming it's not the CU he is showing, as that one isn't dual RCD.
Also, it doesn't say whether it is using mini-trunking, existing channels (if oval conduit is already there of course), or new channelling made good afterwards.
I can only guess that this will be for a surface-mount rewire.
 

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can a kitchen fitter plummer etc that have sighned up with elecsa etc do full rewires on limmited scope.
makes me wonder how many other trades have got there foot in the door doing electric work maybe i need to do plumbing or fit kitchens?
No he cannot. He's only allowed to do minor works directly associated with his main trade (eg add an FCU for a boiler).

Rewires/new consumer units are not included in limited scope.
 
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Probably a plumber/kitchen fitter with a Electrical Trainee ticket!!
 
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thekingiam

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are there any Electrical Trainee courses to become a plummer or kitchen fitter?
 

Snapester

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Yeah he does fuseboards for £249.00 he is only around the corner from me to. Wow fair play to him, i don't know how people get them prices materials cost me that! I must be missing a trick or two, possibly 3!
 

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Wow this make good reading too .... you got me going now chaps!!
NEW FUSE BOARD SUPPLIED AND FITTED - BIRMINGHAM, COVENTRY, SOLIHULL, WEST MIDLANDS

The Consumer Unit will be located in the same position as the old one. If you require us to relocate it, this may incur additional charges. The cost of the service does NOT include any costs for making your electrical wiring safe or any upgrades to or additional earth bonding.
 
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Wow this make good reading too .... you got me going now chaps!!
NEW FUSE BOARD SUPPLIED AND FITTED - BIRMINGHAM, COVENTRY, SOLIHULL, WEST MIDLANDS

The Consumer Unit will be located in the same position as the old one. If you require us to relocate it, this may incur additional charges. The cost of the service does NOT include any costs for making your electrical wiring safe or any upgrades to or additional earth bonding.
Just had a look at the Home Page page on this web site!!! Say's it all in the first photograph really, which shows Non UK Standard (German or French) plug and socket wall accessories... Or perhaps maybe they are thinking of expanding their Birmingham work area!! lol!!!

Then a photo of a 16th edition CU, that wouldn't now meet current domestic installation requirements... Sloppy on a web page, makes you wonder if they are just as sloppy on safety in peoples homes!!! lol!!!
 
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Back to the ebay "item":

Spelling mistakes
No mention of LABC

and more importantly who in their right mind would do a buy it now without meeting the provider.

This is more about marketing than selling.
 

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Who's installing the new smart meter read some where its british gas , well access to every home in the uk ,great eh its the end of the small time spark ,how do you compete with the big guys you get chewed up and spat out , round here there are guys are re wiring 3 bed house in a day for £1500 , cant imagin what the works like
 

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Who's installing the new smart meter read some where its british gas , well access to every home in the uk ,great eh its the end of the small time spark ,how do you compete with the big guys you get chewed up and spat out , round here there are guys are re wiring 3 bed house in a day for £1500 , cant imagin what the works like
well..it`l be crap wont it....
 
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thekingiam

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Who's installing the new smart meter read some where its british gas , well access to every home in the uk ,great eh its the end of the small time spark ,how do you compete with the big guys you get chewed up and spat out , round here there are guys are re wiring 3 bed house in a day for £1500 , cant imagin what the works like
i would put an add out there ofering a free check up on some of there work who knows what you may find could turn out to be lucrative for you going behind them and putting things right
 
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thekingiam

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just remembered there was a taxi driver when i did my 17th in birmingham, it was his 5th timetaking 17th eddition course i bet he has passed now and doing rewires
 

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you have got to put yourself out there if you want a result just like these guys have
Putting himself out there? He's never at home by the sound of it! "The service is available during normal working hours, Mon – Sun 8.30am to 10pm."

Funny what some people class as 'normal'. Fair play to him though, I seriously doubt anyone could afford the rate I'd want for working 13 hour days seven days a week :)
 
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just remembered there was a taxi driver when i did my 17th in birmingham, it was his 5th timetaking 17th eddition course i bet he has passed now and doing rewires
5 attempts at the worlds easiest multi guess exam ? lol , god loves a tryer.
Anyways , i admire the idea of getting his services advertised on ebay with millions of viewers every day - very shrewd.
what he didnt consider was ebay take 10% of the final sold value ;-D
 
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Who's installing the new smart meter read some where its british gas , well access to every home in the uk ,great eh its the end of the small time spark ,how do you compete with the big guys you get chewed up and spat out , round here there are guys are re wiring 3 bed house in a day for £1500 , cant imagin what the works like
Horses for courses mate. We've done contract rewires on and of for 30 years for various councils, housing associations etc. We nearly always complete a rewire in a day, (2/3 bed) to a high standard aswell. You just need a good system and a very high work ethic. You'll be supprised how good some of these 1 a day teams are. Good rewire teams will spank you on price every time and produce work of equal standard, if not better.
 

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Horses for courses mate. We've done contract rewires on and of for 30 years for various councils, housing associations etc. We nearly always complete a rewire in a day, (2/3 bed) to a high standard aswell. You just need a good system and a very high work ethic. You'll be supprised how good some of these 1 a day teams are. Good rewire teams will spank you on price every time and produce work of equal standard, if not better.
That's a bold statement considering you don't know the standard of our work.
 

imago

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You'll be supprised how good some of these 1 a day teams are. Good rewire teams will spank you on price every time and produce work of equal standard, if not better.
Can't see it myself, the figures don't add up. A "team" will need paying and the materials buying. So how do you fit all that into £1,500?
 

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Horses for courses mate. We've done contract rewires on and of for 30 years for various councils, housing associations etc. We nearly always complete a rewire in a day, (2/3 bed) to a high standard aswell. You just need a good system and a very high work ethic. You'll be supprised how good some of these 1 a day teams are. Good rewire teams will spank you on price every time and produce work of equal standard, if not better.
There is a lot of truth in this statement,like it or lump it

Contract council house (surface mainly) wiring is a totally different animal to us working alone or with a helper on a private residence
The rewire teams are usually very well organised both with organising the job and carrying it out quickly and to an accepted standard

I say accepted standard because,you can't have speed and complete quality,there is usually a little compromise
If the rewire teams were doing a private,they likely will not do that private as quick as the council contract,but the standard will be raised a little
 
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bang on the money with des's assessment.
theres very few on here who have to work to a deadline every day , as many on this site are self-employed , you'd be surprised what you can get done when really pushed.
 

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Kids or foreign folk who are happy with £5 a day tto feed themselves! Banging them out in one day is clever though takes me 1 day to get my routes planned and start wiring! Lol
 

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On closer inspection, why on earth would one show a picture of a poorly dressed, 16th edition 12 way board with doubled up lighting circuits, an iffy looking terminal 4 neutral connection and debris left in the bottom of the enclosure.
It may look acceptable to other trades/plumbers and joe public but to me it just looks a mess.

They offer fully fitted and certified for £249 then, quote "The cost of the service does NOT include any costs for making your electrical wiring safe or any upgrades to or additional earth bonding."
How does that work? What's the point in having it done in the first place then.

I just feel sorry for the public, who, with all their disclaimers, will end up paying well over the top.
Sorry for the rant but it just annoys me.
 

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