Kitchen sockets keep tripping.

[Phil2203]

Hi all, hope everyone has had a nice Christmas. At some point this morning the kitchen sockets tripped and its had me up the wall, literally.

It has happened in the past but I just flip the breaker back up and it's been fine. Not today. Flip it up, few seconds later it trips the downstairs rcd. Flip the kitchen fuse off then all power downstairs is fine.

I've had all the sockets off looking for damaged/loose wires but all seem sound.

Theres nothing unusual on the circuit, 4 sockets, fridge freezer, dishwasher etc...

I dont think its overloading, yesterday I had the microwave, steamer, kettle, extractor fan on all at the same time and was fine.

Any ideas guys???? Thanks

 

[DefyG]

Have you tried unplugging all appliances or perhaps one at a time to determine if its an appliance?

 

[Dustydazzler]

As above , unplug / disconnect absolutely everything from the circuit and chances are it will reset & hold in...

very rarely will a fault on the internal wiring develope out of the blue

 

[DefyG]

If its an intermittent fault within an appliance it may still not be conclusive!

 

[Pete999]

Hi all, hope everyone has had a nice Christmas. At some point this morning the kitchen sockets tripped and its had me up the wall, literally.

It has happened in the past but I just flip the breaker back up and it's been fine. Not today. Flip it up, few seconds later it trips the downstairs rcd. Flip the kitchen fuse off then all power downstairs is fine.

I've had all the sockets off looking for damaged/loose wires but all seem sound.

Theres nothing unusual on the circuit, 4 sockets, fridge freezer, dishwasher etc...

I dont think its overloading, yesterday I had the microwave, steamer, kettle, extractor fan on all at the same time and was fine.

Any ideas guys???? Thanks

What is the device that is "tripping RCD or MCB "

 

[GBDamo]

Does it coincide with activity?

Pans/kettle boiling.

One thing I've seen is kettles/pans boiling then steam condensing, especially at this time of year on external walls, and running down tiles and into sockets and tripping RCDs.

 

[telectrix]

and if youse stuck, this Scouser has MFT, will travel.

 

[Intoelectrics]

Sounds like an appliance fault to me, likely getting worse over time. Only seen the odd occasion where a fault has developed on a circuit over time, usually from poor install (slightly damaged/ trapped cable etc...).

Are you 100% sure you fully disconnected everything on that circuit?

 

[OnlQQker]

Is the rain blowing in from the West?

Outside lights are sometimes wired into circuits via a spur.

 

[telectrix]

Is the rain blowing in from the West?

Outside lights are sometimes wired into circuits via a spur.

in Liverpool it always blows from the west unless there's another chernobyl, then we're all fooked.

 

[Phil2203]

Have you tried unplugging all appliances or perhaps one at a time to determine if its an appliance?

I'll try it again in the morning. I unplugged all the sockets but the large appliances are on switched spurs

 

[Phil2203]

What is the device that is "tripping RCD or MCB "

RCD. The downstairs circuits are all on the same rcd. Keeps tripping if I try to flip it up, turn the kitchen off and ilts fine

 

[Phil2203]

Does it coincide with activity?

Pans/kettle boiling.

One thing I've seen is kettles/pans boiling then steam condensing, especially at this time of year on external walls, and running down tiles and into sockets and tripping RCDs.

Nah not down to activity, it was all go yesterday and was fine. Boiled a kettle once today and it went off an hour or so later

 

[Phil2203]

and if youse stuck, this Scouser has MFT, will travel.

Cheers mate, appreciate it.

 

[Phil2203]

Is the rain blowing in from the West?

Outside lights are sometimes wired into circuits via a spur.

That's a good shout. There 2 pir lights on the side of the house and I'm sure their on a plug. I'll get stuck into it 1st thing, cheers

 

[Phil2203]

Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll take everything out tomorrow and see what happens.

It hasn't happened for a couple of months now, usually goes straight back on.

 

[Pete999]

RCD. The downstairs circuits are all on the same rcd. Keeps tripping if I try to flip it up, turn the kitchen off and ilts fine

Something on your RFC is causing tripping try unplugging things and gradually turn them back on till the RCD trips ergo there is your problem

 

[telectrix]

if appliances are on a FCU and the FCU is only single pole switcthing, could be a N-E fault on an appliance.

 

[Pete999]

if appliances are on a FCU and the FCU is only single pole switcthing, could be a N-E fault on an appliance.

Good point Tel

 

[Lucien Nunes]

AFAIK all BS1363 FCUs are DP although that doesn't stop someone making up SP arrangements using grid parts.